Sam’s Hangout #80 -”TRANSGENDER”

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TRANSGENDER


Now to our discussion for this weekend! We will be discussing “TRANSGENDER”. I’m sure many of us have stories to tell.

"Do you think people choose who they are, or is it something deeper than choice?"

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"Do you think people’s sense of identity can change over time, or does it usually stay consistent?"

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"Feel free to share your thoughts, but let’s keep the focus on how people can grow and be the best version of themselves.”

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Be as simple and sincere with the discussion, hehehe.

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"Do you think people’s sense of identity can change over time, or does it usually stay consistent?"

For me, I believe anyone whose identity changes over time or lost their self of identity, then I think that person is not fit to be moving freely in the society. It just shows that that person is mentally challenged:

This is something we as a society should not accept. The fact that some people can identify as anything is just so absurd. You can identify as a cat and then you’ll expect the society to accept you are a cat, any society that accept such should know that that society is running mad and will collapse

What are your thoughts @tressuree @soma18 @desire-pen @justola1 @abdul-qudus @neysco @trojan1

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This was so funny and I know it was funny because I’m not guilty.

Most people that chose to identify as anything needs help not acceptance. They are screaming help me the moment they are confused of what they are and they start seeing the need to be something else that they weren’t initially.

The society accepting just anything is only calling for chaos. The moment some countries accepted it, that was the moment more persons became encouraged to want to be who they are not.

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People that can decide to be anything at any point in time has lost themselves and definitely they need help.

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It's just still okay that there's still a lil fear about it over here

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I saw one meme like that which said "l identify as a threat,my pronouns are try/me"

Since anybody can be anything now.

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This is extremely serious 😂

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😂😂 yes na.

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The fact that every human has rights according to the law has made everyone mind their business And allow which ever decision an adult can made. Be it Positive or negative

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Like broo. They really are mentally challenged. Because wtf would anyone want to identify and live their life as a cat. But everyone is preaching human right now, people can any or whatever they like

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Great to see Sam's Hangout #80! Love that Wittgenstein quote, really gets you thinking! 🐴👍

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Thanks for dropping in...
happy weekend...

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Happy weekend fellas…

@hopestylist @nkemakonam89 @justfavour @mayor-001 @goldenproject @chefqueen @van.illa @treasuree

Welcome to this weekend’s hangout…
@samostically

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Foxy!

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Hey man!

You here today lol..

It's been a while we jammed here...

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I am in a meeting ..will join you guys later

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Collect Jollof rice oo.

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Come to my house. Rice is in my room

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Abi small chocolate.

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Happy weekend, Quduus. 🙂‍↔️

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Waittt, where’s this cominG from lol

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Qudus as how?😂😂

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You no tag me shey

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This week’s topic is very deep. This will spike a lot of conversation…

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Very deep! I learnt something about it this week and I wanted to know what y’all have to say about it.

Learning never ends. 😌

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Yez oooo, you got it right

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Where are my dawgs???

@soma18 you better come here now…

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Aww! It’s not only dawgs. It’s table mama. 🙂‍↕️

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😂

Welcome y’all

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Where is soma? 🥲

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Ladies and gentlemen
It's the weekend....go and spend that money
Another one will come

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Lol, my man. Welcome brother

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Transgender; this is actually a deep dive, and i think this is going to be a many way thing, and that’s because a lot of people will be dropping in with different opinions and views on this…

Transgender; when it comes down to this, honestly I don’t think there’s any excuse that could make up for it. How good does it sound to hear that man completely changes himself to a woman. The question is why? What was he thinking when he made that decision…
Honestly, there could be a thousand reasons why such decision was made, it could be societal pressure, family pressure or mostly gender discrimination from early stage. Imagine drilling it into the ears of your young children that a particular gender is better than another, is that not you lighting a spark in their head. Not everyone can take that and sometimes it leaves a scar on the heart, which is why that is always the go to solution to prove yourself worthy, not knowing it’s a big mistake…

At the end of the day, it all boils down to the choice you make. Your choice determines how you are seen. At the end of the day, it’s all about you and what makes you happy, don’t be shy and choose who you are with a sound mind, don’t let the words of any get to you…

Peace out….

@samostically what you got on this?

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I like that example of the parents saying it openly to the hearing of their children that they prefer a particular gender more than the other. Some children will want to be loved and choose to become the other gender.

While some will want to prove otherwise and be the other gender that is not preferred to prove a point. So many reasons we you’ve said.

Yes, it’s good to do what makes us happy but then, sometimes what makes us happy is bore out of a place of pain or ignorance.

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Yes, I agree but at the end of the day, there should always be a figure to clear things up and that will only be better if no pressure is put on these souls...

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Seeing people change to another gender wouldn't be surprising anymore, if can really see how people especially teenagers and young youth reason nowadays, they can do and undo. They are controlled by crowd ,they don't have mind of their own.

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Exactly. If only the crowd knew the damage they doing to the innocent ones coming up…
Hopefully it’s gonna be better…

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And the it is really quite selfish to just think of ourselves alone not caring what our actions have on others. Those who are transgendered are more concern of what makes them feel good and that can also be due to many reasons which wasn’t properly handled in time.

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The first time I heard about this transgender of a thing, I found it icky. But overtime after countless diggings and discussions with a certain friend of mine, my view on it changed.

A lot of factors attributes to that. Just like you said, a child who grew up to hear and see the parents favouring the opposite gender wouldn't think twice before transiting inorder to feel that love, care and attention he only got to be an audience to.

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These are actually great points here brotherly
The seed we sow in the minds of the little ones will continue to grow and germinate. It now boils down to who is around to nurture it for them, uprooting the grass off from the real plant.

And before I forget 👀 there's a part missing here; 10 Tags 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃

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Happy weekend my people 🥳🎉🎊

What's good ?

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Happy weekend, mama.
I’m good and you?

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I am good my own hopy 🥰

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Happy weekend ma

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Same to you T baby ❤️

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@hopestylist !!
Bring your head here .

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Our way of life depends on our choices nothing more deeper than that, it all goes to what we feed our mind and what we let it tell our heart which brings our choice. People choose who they are, I have seen kids brought up from a deep believer home and later turn out to opp of what the parents gave her/him,if not, I would have say maybe it's what parents give out to their kids.

Many children out there suffer from peer pressure mainly because they do not have mind of their own , they get confused easily, they question their choice every now and then ,so there is nothing to be surprised if seeing people wanting to change their gender , believing that a gender has more benefits or has less responsibility. I see it all breaks down to selfishness in their life which is why they think of what could benefit them more or act of not responsible,they don't want to be accountable for anything.
@empressjay @marsdave @afrikens @goldenproject

What do you think guys ?

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Personally, I always blame the parents for most things that a child turns out to become why? It might just be that one day when you said something so casually or overlooked something because the child is still young he or she won’t possibly take that because they are children and such a parent took it casually until later they realize how much that habit has eaten deep into their child.

Or the part that parents are even ever hardly around to discuss with their children. Or they always appear too righteous before them. All of these and many more can turn a good training void.

But yes, there is a possibility of these children still making wrong choices even after the good training and that is usually due to one factor some parents overlooked or couldn’t afford a better one and that is their environment (friends, teacher, classmates, church members, the games they play, the movies they watch the words they hear and so much).

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Hmmm well you make a point ,I will take my sister has an example,anyone that sees how my sister handles her children now will wonder how come still they turn out bad like that but I as a family ,when I think it deeply , the still comes from her , she didn't introduced this discipline early to them, she thought they were to young to be disciplined ,now that she i now doing so, they are already matured with indiscipline. So, I can say your point are right too

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As a child grows,a lot of factors affect the kind of person they would eventually turn out to be. It's up to the parents to continue giving them guidance and never stopping. There's a kind a child will receive and they'll just know that a certain lifestyle is not for them.

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It's true that family upbringing, environment and the like cannot be overlooked but still, one's life is a product of his or her choices. When you're to choose between two things, whichever you go for is nothing but your choice.

And when anyone thinks a certain gender has it all rosey compared to the other, such person is simply dwelling in a lie.

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Yes ,my dear, it's all on choice the background just have little contributions but whatever you decide is utmost

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It all boils down to our thoughts and what we think of ourselves. If someone thinks life will be easier if they just become something out of the original,then it sad. People have to work more of finding who they are than investing the energy trying to be something they're not meant to be.

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Yes. Exactly my point. They fail to identify who they are, so they are too carried away.

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Happy weekend guys!

Hmmm, this is a deep discussion and many things will be said. Lemme do and come fess...

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Happy weekend, Daverick!
Go and come o. We are waiting for you. 😌

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Waitist or Waiter?🤲😄

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I was busy oo...
But I'm back now, at this odd hour.

Lemme drop my point...

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Doer

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Doest 😁

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Transgender.
The rate at which the male gender does so many things to turn to females in my country is so alarming.
At the same time, the rate at which a female tends to compete with the male gender over unnecessary things is getting too high

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You’re welcome to the hangout!

Indeed, the rate is increasing by the day and it is even more concerning that rather than trying to help them, the society is finding ways to accept it.

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Excatly, the society are now normalizing abnormalities .

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I personally think that identity is a mix of both choice and influence also. Influences like upbringing and life's experience. Everyone has the choice to shape who they want to be over time. But ah, it's becoming too much already. I saw a video on instagram recently, where the girl was like she identifies as a cat so she has her friend taking care of her and treating her like a cat.

This last session in the university, I came across and saw a lot of femboys (boys that identify as girls) more than usual. The rate at which they are becoming more and more is really alarming.

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@deraaa come and see. Identify as a cat ke.

I’m curious @kristabel123 what role do you think religion play in all this? Do you think modernization has conquered religion or it has always been like this irrespective of any relational background.

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Parents have failed what would church do?it's all goes down to each home.

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@sam.hangout 😂😂😂 exactly, identify as cat ke. For me, I think religion still has a say in all this because if you check, most religions don't support it at all. But modernisation and social media push people to explore things that normally we won't even think of. But I won't say that modernization has totally conquered religion because many people still hold on to their faith strongly. But the truth is, people carry more influence from what they see online than from what they hear in church or mosque sef. That's why all these things are becoming more common. We are just going to far with this identity matter.

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Hmmm what did I missed? Todays topic is deep o

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When it comes to Gender related issue then it's no option or choice. It's deeper than anyone getting to make a choice that this is the gender I want to be as long as you have found yourself to be created as a male or female and when it leads to such situation of choosing then it has turn to a case of sarcastipara la nsinto a.k.a disconjomiror

Request for translation if you're too curious 😜

@goldenproject @empressjay @chefqueen @officialdenkay @abdul-qudus let me come and check-in your flats of response or you're not here yet

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I request for an interpretation before saying anything

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😂😂 5HBD pls

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I’m here oooo
Where’s my room🥱

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Abeg wetin that last line mean😁

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Ehhh so my comment didn't go through since
Elemefieleme 🙄🙆

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Greetings everyone 👋


I will be replying the first prompt question posed.

Naturally, once a child is born, the gender we see is the gender they are and grow up with. Now when a child ( male or female) decides to become something else, I believe it is a matter of choice.

The sad part is that this choice is sick and unhealthy and should be shunned greatly.

Firstly, it breaks the natural order or reproduction as stipulated by God.

Secondly, it exposes a darkness seated deep within the mind that seeks expression.

You can't literally "choose" who you are afterall, we were all born this way but to lose our identity and begin to be something we are not is just so weird.

Transitioning genders is something that our society should shun vehemently.

Be proud of who you are. Love you, believe in you and live for you.

I'm inviting @ozd, @luchyl, @rukkie, @ellizy, @patienceakoan, @faithwellington and @daverick to talk their own.

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I came late, hope you left a portion of jollof for me oo

Yes a lot of people lose or change their identity over time. This is common among people from Africa who finds the opportunity to japa and are able to land themselves an opportunity to stay in their destination country like indefinite leave to remain or green card.

Majority of such people especially when they have no old parents to care for in Africa, they tend to forget their root and take up their new identity

@rukkie @beckyroyal @ozd hope you marked register already?

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first of all the human mind is the engine room that propels all of our actions and inactions, and we act depending on the content of the mind how do we feed our mind? by what we are expose to: our environment, friends, peer group, society family unit.....

while some society sees trangender as a diabolic thing some others welcome it with open arms all depends on our opinion

why would a person want to transfer from one gender to another?....

I still do not have the ultimate answer to that cause whatever I say do not change anything rather just my opinion...

in conclusion whatever we re depends on our society , peer pressure, friends, surroundings what we are expose to ...

come on
@jmis101 @beautyme @chi4god @nanawrites @abiye1

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