My first thought when Matt said it would be a bot friendly format, was .... " Damn!, no way will I play that and be insta-murdered by bots, then suffer a cooldown on my cards for ranked".... I was a bit annoyed.

Then I thought about it for a bit, read a few different options and started to form a different opinion that goes a bit like this....

1. This mode was never for me anyway, regardless of having a few duplicates of the nicer CL cards, there is no way I'll stack up on duplicate summoners at this stage, there are better places to put cash ( like the max Avina the Wolf I just bought :-) ) and right now , the fall-back of renting them does not yield much.

2. The new "revival potions" may see significant demand, especially for key limiting cards, like expensive carry cards ( Yodin, Kitty) that ppl really want to play but may not have duplicates. Additionally, even winning a match will result in "dead cards" , so if you want to leverage those summoners, you may need to revive key cards like healers or tanks

3. The Revival Potions will cost DEC I hope, this would be ideal. If this DEC is burned, this could be a very active DEC sink.

4. Assuming it's a whale bot game with a good share of SPS per win due to the low number of players, especially at higher levels, the potion purchase will be a pure RoI question, thus moving SPS effectively into DEC burn.

While it may not be a mode for most, it caters to a small niche, and that niche may be encouraged to actions that drag the wider ecosystem up, and all for existing cards.

My concerns are that it may reduce match liquidity as more players have less cards to play manual Modern with due to cooldowns, especially summoners

I am also concerned about the DAO funding rewards to a small group , unless we see the benefit mentioned above.

Matt will be paying the rewards at first, so there is a buffer of some time to see what the data looks like.

I think we look on it as a free trial, and I'm happy now I realise that it's not a mode I should really even be thinking about playing .... ignore the shiny thing :-)

Thanks for tagging me here. I wouldn't change a thing in what you wrote, and I can guess most PLAYERS feel the same. What saddens me is seeing the founder of the game saying that he "knows a lot of people that enjoyes the game experience of using bot services in wild"; because it becomes clear that we have different views on what constitutes a player. I can understand that bots are part of the game's economy, but if botting wasn't lucrative for the ones using it, there wouldn't be botting. And if that is the case, it means more money is drawn from the game than put into it. The only "advantage" I see in introducing a new mode with bots, is the likely influx of money to the game... just to be traded for long term pain like we had in the past.

It feels we're going in circles with this. And frankly, it gets tiring. As a player, and as you, I can't reason a PvP game where humans facing bots is what's encouraged. It's already bad to have the wild league delivered to bots; applying the same recipe to a new mode, is even worse. I would rather see bots completely out of the equation, but if not, having human only leagues on ALL modes would be a welcome change.

Thanks for trying to bring some sense into this nonsense! !BBH

I can only speak for myself but for me the main condition for enjoying a game is - apart from being challenging and fun - to make sure that the BEST and most skillful players will win (and also earn most).

In Splinterlands there are two reasons why that is not the case:

• There is such a huge (inflationary) amount of (partly very expensive) cards on the market that only these players who spend a lot of money have a chance to dominate the rankings and tournaments. That has always been the case but is getting more and more extreme.

• In the only mode where one can use all one's cards one will mainly fight against 'players' who are using any kind of software which has nothing to do with skill in the game (and most of them are not even using self-made programs).
  In my eyes a 'player' who doesn't play is a contradiction in itself.

The idea of "idle games" (passive earning) never attracted me at all. If I want to have a passive income I stake any crypto currencies and don't need a complicated game with many requirements at all.

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It sounds like Survival is going to be another Wild League where people just use bots. I guess it will just be another area that I avoid. I am sad to hear that Yabpamatt's response seems to support botting so I don't think the war against them will ever end.

Aggiungo solo un paio di osservazioni:

1. non è vero che dietro ad ogni bot c'è un giocatore reale. Sarebbe vero solo nel caso in cui non fosse permesso il multiaccount. Ci sono singoli giocatori reali che usano decine di Bot. Un giocatore reale non può giocare su decine di account, al massimo 2 o 3.

2. Io mi divertivo a giocare nel wild anche se avevo contro i bot, che sono convinto ci siano, sebbene quantità minore, anche nel modern. Ma vorrei capire perché per continuare ad usare le mie carte per giocare debba ogni stagione pagare per il Wild pass.

Appreciate your effort but too messy in my opinion

Molto d'accordo con te. La modalità è interessante. Il fatto del blocco delle carte morte in battaglia costringe o ad acquistare pozioni o ad avere più copie della stessa carta e questo dovrebbe essere un bene per l'economia di gioco. Sui bot non so che dire, potrebbero creare leghe speculari tipo modern e bot modern, dove da una parte non sono ammessi aiuti e dall'altra si. Ricompense sempre maggiori per le leghe dove non si possono usare aiuti e magari rewards unbid per i giocatori reali e soulbound per i bot. Però probabilmente è come dite tu e garlet, ci sono balene che devono essere ripagate e questo e uno dei vari mezzi per farlo.

There really ain't no much bots though even while playing modern or wide.. but it's a good innovation by way

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Non avevo ancora commentato ma il post me lo ero letto subito: che dire, purtroppo ancora una volta abbiamo la conferma che il team di Splinterlands non capisce (o non vuole capire) la differenza tra un giocatore ed un investitore.

Dire che chi botta è un giocatore vuol dire travisare completamente il senso di ciò che hai detto che, saranno pure opinioni, ma poggiano su fatti: i bot in un gioco non portano alcun reale beneficio, solo guadagni temporanei, da restituire con gli interessi, e finti numeri di giocatori attivi. Nient'altro.

Per il resto fanno solo danni perchè non esiste un solo giocatore che si diverta a giocare contro un bot: il multiplayer è stato inventato proprio per consentire alle persone di gareggiare contro altri essere umani e ci sono decenni di videogiochi di successo a dimostrare il funzionamento di questo concetto.

Quando leggo cose come questa mi viene un gran voglia di mettere completamente da parte Splinterlands, perchè mi fa dubitare molto del suo futuro vedere che non solo non si fa niente per eliminare i bot, ma addirittura si nega l'esistenza del problema...

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