A discussion between Jordan Peterson and Peter Thiel
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Peter Thiel

Dr. Jordan Peterson

Dr. Jordan Peterson: "He outlined his theory of social transformation, which is also deeply influenced by his skepticism about what low level memetic envy predicated status games-- which I think has been a very wise target of skepticism.
We walked through his thoughts on social and technological transformation over a couple of hundred years, concentrating more on the last 60, and also began to flesh out a metaphysics that might ameliorate some of that nihilistic pathology and malaise.
And that enabled us to at least begin a discussion about what metaphysical presuppositions are necessary for a society and a psyche to remain well-- not only healthy but non-totalitarian and catastrophic. So join us for that." --2:52

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