Last 365 days of Value Plan payouts organized.

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It's been brought up in a few discussions, and I was curious myself so I organized the last 365 days of Value Plan expense payouts by user. The user and what the project is can be found in the @valueplan posts.

This is value plan payouts only, not other DHF proposals.

All HIVE payouts have been converted to the current USD value.

toHIVEHBD
aggroed$0.00$90.00
aksurevm89$0.00$11,113.00
allentaylor$0.00$750.00
arcange$0.00$708.00
arlettemsalase$0.00$70,783.00
audiarmisg$0.00$2,215.36
blackheart1$0.00$4,000.00
bookerman$0.00$370.00
breatheweb3$0.00$50,000.00
broxi$0.00$60.00
c0ff33a$0.00$22.00
caribayarte$0.00$300.00
ccsblockwk$0.00$25,600.00
coolsurfer$0.00$46.90
crimsonclad$0.00$21,624.50
cryptosimplify$0.00$35,805.49
danielvehe$2,112.51$9,754.00
dbuzz$0.00$6,495.00
detlev$0.00$979.14
dnsmedia$0.00$520.00
donchate$0.00$800.00
eddiespino$0.00$1,725.00
edmundochauran$0.00$9,940.00
elindos$0.00$940.91
enmy$0.00$450.00
enrique89$0.00$8,828.00
epickimajkel$0.00$28,721.00
epicmichael$0.00$8,080.00
flauwy$0.00$346.00
gorayii$0.00$341.04
hexagono6$0.00$17,954.50
hive.fund$0.14$52,239.55
hiveccs$0.00$195.00
hivecreators$0.00$34,245.00
hivecuba$0.00$1,008.00
hivefest$0.00$44,800.00
hiveio$708.37$0.00
hivestudentshub$0.00$4,514.65
hiveup-europe$0.00$1,597.11
holos-lotus$0.00$1,180.00
ihavethedream$0.00$205.52
inthenow$0.00$30.00
jauregui98$0.00$335.00
jfuji$0.00$270.00
jonsnow1983$0.00$1,290.00
jorgetenzi$0.00$260.00
king-13$0.00$3,830.00
king13wallet$0.00$4,760.00
latino.romano$0.00$375.00
lordbutterfly$0.00$7,140.00
louis88$0.00$810.00
manuphotos$0.00$1,242.00
marcocasario$0.00$1,349.00
marscrea$0.00$105,818.70
mazergaming$0.00$8,670.00
mcsamm$0.00$90,258.00
mundomanaure$0.00$7,345.00
mynewlife$0.00$2,044.00
nahupuku$0.00$2,115.00
nathansenn$0.00$13,110.00
orimusic$0.00$455.00
pacoandujar$0.00$40.00
pettycash$99.61$365.33
quekery$0.00$60.00
rareevo$0.00$45,286.70
renzotrujillo$0.00$2,575.00
rivalzzz$0.00$204.00
rubencress$0.00$960.00
samgiset$0.00$300.00
simplegame$0.00$60.00
solarwarrior$0.00$434.11
soy-laloreto$0.00$570.00
ssekulji$117,550.64$332.00
starkerz$0.00$2,998.63
stefy.music$0.00$1,050.00
sucrewallet$0.00$81,292.00
sunravelme$0.00$60.00
tibfox$0.00$91.75
traciyork$0.00$1,024.00
uquid$136.75$100.00
valueplan$0.03$0.00
victorg30$0.00$2,445.00
victoriabsb$0.00$2,080.00
waffleskitty$0.00$215.00
wrestorgonline$0.00$827.00
yolimarag$0.00$592.00
yonnathang$0.00$31,924.23
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I wondered why the harassment messages went through the roof overnight! 😂

Some quick info that perhaps will save some of the context diving and the subsequent slew of abuse that tends to go along with it, or for curious onlookers who won't ask but will bananaphone gossip until someone tells me that everyone knows I'm rich and manipulating the platform:

  • every dollar from VP that is disbursed to me has a submitted invoice that I have paid for in full on my personal credit cards, which I often take a personal conversion hit on because I pay in Canadian for US items and events often since we don't have a company to handle this stuff for us
  • I often am the intermediary for other projects or people and do my best to always facilitate 1:1 otc trades or try to go through something like Uquid to get prepaid credit cards (though this way incurs more fees) so that things don't immediately get pushed into sell pressure
  • the unfortunate result of taking on so much organization and tasks this year, and using my credit cards as the guarantors and payment conduits for events and merch that I have to pay off with crypto sales means that I've actually opened myself to a terrible amount of tax liability which is not so hot
  • as mentioned in VP spec posts, zero of the funds from VP are ever a salary or personal payment for work done: only direct reimbursements for money spent according to and with proof of invoice matching budgeting done for initiatives. I will be making a direct, personal proposal for the past three years of work out of what is now basically extreme need and it won't be small, so that will be the correct place to publicly air your grievances with your whole chest if you do have them, vs the dms and gossip in the night that don't get you any closer to accountability but do make my life just trying to keep up with each days tasks a bit harder

('you' in this post means the reader, and no one specific person)

Hope this helps!

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Of all the people on this list you are the most deserving. You are constantly working your ass off while not asking for anything. It’s disappointing you have to deal with so much shit for it. I don’t think most people realize how much you do here.

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As far as it concerns me you could be getting 50k a year for running this show and nobody would bat an eye

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Hi Crim!
I'm probably one of those who most question the transparency of the valueplan but also one that think what you're doing and can do next (I'm talking about crypto events and related, if you have that mood, time, etc) worth probably more to Hive than all other valueplan initiatives together and must be well paid! I really appreciate your work and in my opinion Hive marketing must go global and not regional.
Saying that, few times that I read you my feeling is that you take things as personal. Don't take it as a criticism, it's just my conclusion, I read your comment and it seems that valueplan didn't sent about 3M Hive, and almost half of this 3M to Venezuela and counting.
Now that you already justify your part (nobody asked you and like I said you should get much more and keep doing what you do like no one in this Blockchain) let's talk about the 3M already gone? 😊

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I think it's probably pretty easy to read stuff around Hive as you assume it must be written, which isn't much different than any digital space. I try not to take things personally ever around here, because it's too easy to do, especially when money and rewards are involved and double especially when there are no social cues and context and people come from different places all over the world and understand communication differently. However it IS actually very common that I get messages telling me that I'm awful, that we're wasting all this money, the Venezuela is full of scammers...etc. In fact, people have gone out of their way to make fake Discord accounts just to send me stuff they've tried to dig up on me or others, as a good example. I do my best to simply ignore that and keep going on the same level that I don't think you're evil and hounding me--wasted energy and too easy to make an incorrect assumption anyways. Hence my 😂 emoji in my response, and I'm sure your 😊 is not meant to be pointed either.

That being said, your wording here is certainly a little bit of a passive aggressive and dismissive way of framing the information I offered freely, so let's chalk it up to both of us reading intent that isn't there. Saying 'nobody asked me' is kind of silly... I am accountable to the blockchain and I do this work on behalf of others, so if it's as simple as me coming here and saying "hey, attention is up and people are asking questions, here are the most common answers in a place people are looking, I hope this helps", I'll do that every time without prompting. I don't need people to ask me to offer my thoughts and opinions, and yes, the info about what I'm doing day to day.

Now, with that being said- I am a key holder on valueplan. That means I'm trusted to not run off with this money or disburse it in bad ways. I do consult with GP on certain things and the overall budget where I can, but realistically I am a project manager under VP and actually answer to him most of the time the same way as the rest of these projects do because events I oversee are projects provided by VP. I don't get to just do stuff without supervision because there has never been a universe where getting to write your own checks is a fair or smart way of doing things. It means that I don't have the same types of transparent answers for other projects that I do for mine, (which you're saying is unnecessary, but I do disagree.) You can find all of those breakdowns of info in the year end posts because GP does an absolutely mind-boggling amount of management tracking and accounting on behalf of every project. He does so much work holding people accountable and collecting privileged data and making numbers public and pulling budgets down...it's completely unbelievable in terms of workload.

Venezuela will always be contentious for many people, and part of that is simply because there are a number of groups there that are willing to put in hard work because Hive has tangible outcome and effect on their lives and often they are under-employed, which means putting the work towards these events is a direct step toward creating economies that support the chain and themselves that they have the extra time for. There's also stuff like Caracas Blockchain Week, Latin American conventions and conferences that come with big price tags (like Lima etc), and they get lumped in under Venezuela because the people who manage those types of events- like the fabulous Arlette- are doing the same thing as me and being personal conduits for business dealings. The best thing you can do is talk to those project managers because they'll have the same attitude as me, which is stepping forward and saying "here's exactly how the money is spent."

Long story short, I welcome the criticism, and I do often find it funny when people read my direct responses and explanations in a way that they think is defensive while also holding a constant desire for me to express these things- and that's absolutely not just you, which is why I specified that in my response above.

I have to admit, working under valueplan has in a lot of ways ruined Hive and the Hive experience for me. I have become a full-time event coordinator, planner, project manager and everything else, using every paid vacation day, leave of absence, sick day, and even overworking on holidays and weekends so I can bank that time and use it towards Hive endeavors. I work full-time at my day job on Hive while working full-time at my day job. Any of the problems or unsustainability around it are because of my own ongoing process of figuring out how to work for Hive and it's certainly been a journey that I have probably made a lot of mistakes on; I just rather they be mistakes that impact me, and not the whole blockchain community. So far so good. It's also been fun and valuable and I think is making a difference when it comes to people starting to understand and know about Hive. I'm going to reassess at the end of this year after figuring out with my accountant how to save my personal financial status, and then moving into next year I will do the same thing as much as I'm able and hopefully we will grow it.

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For those interested, these are all the payments since the beginning, Jan, 2022

ToAmountToken
marscrea155429HBD
mcsamm105345HBD
hivefest99705HBD
sucrewallet81292HBD
arlettemsalase75923HBD
hive.fund52240HBD
breatheweb350000HBD
rareevo45287HBD
cryptosimplify35805HBD
hivecreators34245HBD
yonnathang31924HBD
epickimajkel28721HBD
ccsblockwk25600HBD
crimsonclad21625HBD
hexagono617955HBD
nathansenn13110HBD
aksurevm8911113HBD
edmundochauran9940HBD
danielvehe9754HBD
enrique899478HBD
mazergaming8670HBD
epicmichael8080HBD
ssekulji7912HBD
mundomanaure7345HBD
lordbutterfly7140HBD
dbuzz6495HBD
sm-usd5000HBD
king13wallet4760HBD
hivestudentshub4515HBD
blackheart14000HBD
king-133830HBD
nahupuku3755HBD
victoriabsb3330HBD
rutablockchain3043HBD
starkerz2999HBD
renzotrujillo2575HBD
victorg302445HBD
audiarmisg2215HBD
mynewlife2044HBD
eddiespino1725HBD
hiveup-europe1597HBD
thedeltron1575HBD
marcocasario1349HBD
jonsnow19831290HBD
manuphotos1242HBD
holos-lotus1180HBD
stefy.music1050HBD
traciyork1024HBD
hivecuba1008HBD
detlev979HBD
rubencress960HBD
elindos941HBD
wrestorgonline827HBD
louis88810HBD
donchate800HBD
allentaylor750HBD
pettycash715HBD
arcange708HBD
ferbu700HBD
yolimarag592HBD
soy-laloreto570HBD
dnsmedia520HBD
uwelang500HBD
orimusic455HBD
enmy450HBD
samgiset448HBD
solarwarrior434HBD
latino.romano375HBD
bookerman370HBD
flauwy346HBD
gorayii341HBD
jauregui98335HBD
inthenow330HBD
caribayarte300HBD
jfuji270HBD
jorgetenzi260HBD
waffleskitty215HBD
ihavethedream206HBD
rivalzzz204HBD
hiveccs195HBD
fionasfavourites160HBD
dygycon100HBD
uquid100HBD
tibfox92HBD
aggroed90HBD
broxi60HBD
sunravelme60HBD
quekery60HBD
simplegame60HBD
coolsurfer47HBD
pacoandujar40HBD
c0ff33a22HBD
ssekulji429801HIVE
danielvehe7724HIVE
mazergaming5423HIVE
hiveio3590HIVE
mcsamm3426HIVE
uquid500HIVE
pettycash364HIVE
valueplan1HIVE
hive.fund0HIVE
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More comedy please! 😁

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Delighted there is finally some spotlight on the "Make a wish Foundation" 🤣

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Good information; thank you!

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That's a lot of beer and smokes.

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So we can get some funding from @valueplan for Hive-focused promotional initiatives ?

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Basically yes, you have to come up with a business plan and present it to @guiltyparties and @crimsonclad and a group of people will decide how to support you.

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ok, makes sense. But how do we post it and where ?

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There are some crazy numbers in the list, I felt like falling when I've seen them. Let me check what the value play is all about. :)

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Don't know what it is for, but that does look to be a significant amount of payouts.

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I guess if you had any comment to make about this topic you would included in here, right?
Just by curiousity the average hive price in last 6 months is $0.3894

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I would've expected an opinion as well

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X2. Specially because I always read him as a guy that have his own opinion no matter what or if his talking about A or B.

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I don't post anymore just providing information requested so I don't have to keep doing it over and over again.

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Triple it! Nobody starves on Hive.

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Thank you we will look further into this

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What is this?

Some of those numbers are insane - what is the delivery for payment?

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They all vary, but you can find them in the @valueplan posts. But to summarize, it is mostly water holes, rally car, and workout club.

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Interesting distribution.

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'My last post?' ?!?!? Then why TF are you still posting, u dumb POS?

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Did you know there are more than 1.4 billion insects for EACH HUMAN on the planet!

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There is no purpose to this post except to make it look like some people somehow got paid for something. There is no commentary or opinion or research of any kind here and you also didn't include any of the project titles or anything at all that would let the reader figure out what this is even about. So I'll do that for you now.

Value Plan is just an account that manages the funds needed for Hive promotional activities. These activities are all aimed at getting Hive out there and are designed to be focused on geographical areas where we are able to have success and are able to operate. Hive is relatively new on the scene and has the challenge of being a decentralized entity in a world of centralized companies. The projects are for the most part either conferences, b2b, or impact activities.

Conferences are major speaking events and sponsored events that are organized by 3rd parties and to which participation must be purchased. There are also small, local activities of this nature, but they are all pay-to-play. These costs are the same for everyone in the crypto/blockchain tech space. Conferences are chosen strategically while keeping in mind where we have the ability to and the budget to go in.

B2B is blockchain-to-business or business-to-business. These are activities designed specifically to have HIVE and HBD used as a currency in transactions, in day to day store sales, and so on. They come in a variety of forms but for the most part this is a new direction for Hive. It is made possible by OBI and the optimization that was done on the protocol.

Impact activities are our Street Workout team, race car team, our water wells and other either activities or pieces of infrastructure. They are meant to get Hive in the news, create organic social media engagement, and basically spread the word about what Hive can accomplish. All activities are very strictly designed, scheduled and controlled. They all have their targets which are unique to each activity.

This is the half year review of VP activities: https://hive.blog/valueplan/@valueplan/value-plan-half-year-review It covers the first 6 months of 2023 and it also happens to have the profiles of the various people who helped make things happen. They all worked hard, donating their time. No one gets any salary or payment of any kind for any organizational activities, including presentations or conferences or any niche activity.

This is the 2022 year end report: https://hive.blog/valueplan/@valueplan/value-plan-reflections-and-projections It covers the start of VP and has an overview of distributions grouped by project type. It also has some links to spotlights. It is current only to end of year 2022.

To be clear: No person involved in any promotional activities funded by VP has the sole decision-making capacity on any financial distributions. No one above received any funds for any distribution at their own discretion at all and never will.

I ask that no one contacts any person except for myself in regards to any funds or questions to do with any funds. But please drop your questions over to me either in comments or in DM if you wish to remain anonymous and I'll include them in our end of year review.

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With all due respect GP it is the duty of the fund receiving entity to provide a description on how the funds are spent. The valueplan post proposal has no details. There is no review on who received funds and why.

Can stakeholders ask questions if that is the best way to spend money or that question will be considered abusive?

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Absolutely and to myself please. The individuals doing the work cannot reply as none of them would have the full scope of information available to them to answer accurately or there are agreements with partners/venues.

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There is no purpose to this post except to make it look like some people somehow got paid for something.

The purpose is to show where goes so I don’t have to keep responding to messages with it.

There is no commentary or opinion or research of any kind here and you also didn't include any of the project titles or anything at all that would let the reader figure out what this is even about. So I'll do that for you now.

I am just dropping the data as there is no place for me to do it where I don’t have to keep doing it over and over.

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Would be better if you could just forward me messages so I can put out whatever is in their concerns.

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