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RE: Week through Adrian's Lenses (18-24 May 2024)

Tell me a game that has lasted for many years (not updated to version 2, 3, 4, etc. after the previous one became unplayable) by banning bots.

Seriously? Riot games [League of Legends, Valorant, Legends of Runeterra], and Dota are easy answers. I think most games with monetary value or has competitive aspects ban bots. The better question is, can YOU tell me a game that lasted for many years that has openly accepted bots? Where the bots can play against humans for monetary rewards or fame. Because like I said, I only know of Splinterlands.

Web 3 games can't be like that precisely because of the rewards with a monetary value. But they have their place... or not.

I know you've been in the crypto scene for longer, but I can't believe you are saying this. Web3 games are even more protective against bots because there is monetary value. A lot of games have experienced loss of funds and rugpulls because of bot farms extracting massive amounts of rewards and doing a pump and dump. Answering the prompt above, but this time for Web3, Axie comes to mind, Gods Unchained, Rising Star, there are tons more. Again, can you give me a Web3 game other than Splinterlands that openly accept bots?

And from what I've heard, other games in the space have strict no-bot policies. So, that's not the reason, I believe.

Honestly, Web3 games are so far behind in quality to regular games that are coming out. No one will be joining because of the graphics, story, or the fun. There is a Web2 game out there that does it better. The only reason we had a boom in players back in 2021 was because the earnings were insanely high. Right now, game tokens haven't really risen much. If the game tokens increase in value this bull run, then expect players to come back in droves to those games.

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Am I wrong or I they all shooters? I have little to no knowledge about shooters.

I was trying to point out that once bots target a game that can be botted, there's little you can do, especially if you have monetary rewards and the possibility for them to create as many accounts as they want, no KYC, etc. You can try to starve them, as Matt is trying with this proposal, but this way you affect innocent people who either play their accounts themselves or only have one or a few accounts. His solution: move to Modern. Well, his solution sucks for me. But even then, if that takes care of bot farms (and by removing them the game liquidity doesn't go to sh*t), I'm willing to endure. I would prefer an alternative, so I wouldn't feel compelled to play Ranked at all.

Either way, probably I can't give you a counter example since no one ever tried to allow bots before, as far as I know.

Web3 games are even more protective against bots because there is monetary value. A lot of games have experienced loss of funds and rugpulls because of bot farms extracting massive amounts of rewards and doing a pump and dump. Answering the prompt above, but this time for Web3, Axie comes to mind, Gods Unchained, Rising Star, there are tons more.

I think you misunderstood. I meant time will tell if there is a place for Web 3 games in the world or not. Maybe people simply prefer Web 2 games. Or maybe they prefer the meme coins casinos. And I based this argument on the charts showed in bitcoinflood's post, where the number of Web 3 gamers has plummeted.

Yes, there are a few Web 3 games out there. But we are in a bull market. Meme coins went to the moon (as they did in the previous bull market too) and gaming assets and players went into the ground (not all of them).

If the game tokens increase in value this bull run, then expect players to come back in droves to those games.

This is where you made my point. Web 3 games are mostly pretty interfaces for extracting gains (now I feel like a sucker in Splinterlands because I don't do that and my decision to run a bot is questioned at every step).

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