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RE: The Simple Solution to Hive's Biggest Problems - Removing L1 Content Rewards Completely
Well I can see turning Hive into just a wallet when we have a truly decentralized second layer, soon thanks to @dlux correct me if I am mistaken but have talked to Hive Engine Devs and people working on Dlux's project who agree. As well as better transparency happen with our second layer ie How I lost half of my SPT curation and sps airdrop points when delegating My 1.2 spt to @spt-curate and told to kick rocks from HE Team. Got my full air drop points and curation back when undelegating.
Not sure who both sides are but I know a couple of PAL people who are associated with splinterlands that want to just turn Hive in to some liquidity rewards pool for some imagined 300% apr thing but who are the others?
Hive was deflationary for a short period of time but seems it now has a 7.5% inflation rate after upbit gained more liquid hive somehow from 60% to 70% of all liquid hive on the market. I am not seeing some massive devaluing of Hive due to large stake holders but rather consolidated liquid hive on upbit.
https://peakd.com/hive/@dalz.shorts/thinking-of-monthly-hive-inflation-and-supply-report
If you trust the second layer why wouldnt you lean in the second layer or just fork like you intend on doing anyways. In this argument you are making you are seeming spiteful without providing clearer stats. Do you have stats for the the users being flagged to 0? I have seen primarily just you, ura and the youtube celebrity link droppers who share their youtube videos mainly. Even then I am not really seeing Ura's posts to 0 surprisingly. Wouldnt we want to provide clearer stats for the # of users being downvoted to 0? It would appear that number would be less than 1%. I am in no way condoning the downvotes towards freespeech content or retaliatory flags but it does seem it is happening on a very small amount of users comparatively to the rest of the users on hive.
Ya, it seems between Hive-Engine, dlux, and SPK, there will be a strong, and more decentralized L2.
I don't trust L2 at all. Same reason I don't use any ETH L2s.
I'm not looking to fork Hive in any way that could be called a fork. Looking to create something with similar tech (maybe based on Hive's) but completely different ethics, incentives, and purpose. Not even remotely a "competitor" because they're nowhere near the same kind of platform.
I don't have any stats, but some folks off the top of my head: @krnel, @barge, @lucylin, @regenerette, @frankbacon, @frot, @logiczombie, @arabisouri, @ura-soul, and @jasonliberty as you mentioned, a dozen or more other folks that have popped up in the comments of my last posts, plus the other big name folks you mentioned like @joshsigurdson, @lukewearechange, @tlavagabond, @maxigan, @pressfortruth and so on.
Plus the many people who aren't account nuked - but nuked any time they make content exposing inter-generational organized crime.
I'm sure the people I just tagged can give a much longer list than I can.
Anyway, there's a LOT more problems here than just the one symptom of malicious down-voting, as you well know.
I just can't justify feeding the beast anymore - same reason I don't use banks, credit cards, Bitcoin, or Ripple.
Getting ready to run steempruner on both of my Hive accounts actually.
Contents censored, posts demonitized, reputation affected by a few whales including the top one based on political views, they explicitly told, even Zuck's committee of 'fact checkeers' couldn't remove links to such views anymore, apparently Hive whales can suppress.
https://hive.blog/informationwar/@arabisouri/a-couple-of-hive-whales-took-away-hives-worth-hundreds-of-dollars-from-me
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Have you looked at those accounts lately? Only frot is getting flagged to 0 that is making original content even then it seems he may have copy and pasted some time in the past and refuses to talk to hivewatchers. Press for truth yeah he is getting nailed for lazy copy and paste but even luke is killing it. Jason liberty yeah on the posts attacking the downvoters he gets flagged, which is somewhat expected. I am still not seeing this thing where all these people are getting flagged to 0. A lot of these people mentioned still make more than the average hivian.
Frank burned his bridge with me a long time ago dude is out of his freaking mind and has no respect for anyone not even people sticking up for him, in that case I deserved to be burned by him cause he is out of his mind. Logic edits same post over and over again while tagging LOTS of people and I have been trying to work with him to hopefully make his content a little more better than a edited post on repeat.
Well, if you find a community that is sustainable with food, water, shelter and has a reasonable system of governance not requiring energy exchange in the form of a currency; let me know I will be there in a new york min! I know a guy who is building one in Boise who needs @eco-alex's help. So I am not kidding. If you know somewhere where the water, food, shelter and governance is healthy and sustainable I will be there so fast! Until then Hive imo is a viable solution to supplement income so as to not have to get two jobs or work for a company like fiverr or amazon.
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I'm responding to Your response to a Gaslighter for the "Crew"....
WHAT A COMPLETELY FUCKING RETARD!
The block, if viewed by the right kind of researchers shows that a TINY fraction of the few thousand users on HIVE are in control of a NINJA MINED STAKE that should be ZEROed out before ANY OF THESES OTHER RIDICULOUS IDEAS GET SERVICED.
Great ideas! But if the Original Sin is never addressed, everything that comes after will be corrupted... like it is now.
Long story short Bruv, ever since meeting you in 2015 I knew you were a big deal...
My suggestion would be to fold up HIVE/STEEM for BLURT in 2022 with your Tribe.
Without a Downvote button OR a concentrated stake in the hands of PsychoDorks from Portugal, BLURT would give you a head start in gaining back what was lost over the years of Whale Wars.
Ultimately, BLURT will jump ahead of HIVE/STEEM in value but those other chains will not go away... Which is why I personally will be doing my part to just get a few whales in front of some respective Regulators in their country and get them known to their community better.
HIVE!Regards
Everything I post on Hive has been flagged to zero for months, and I also have a couple of alt accounts that have had the same treatment. Many of my friends have stopped using Hive because of the constant downvoting. As well as wiping my earnings it has also dropped my rep.
Yes, I seen that and have acknowledged it. You are being flagged to 0 on every post for sure and really only guy that ive seen being attacked so aggressively. I also see a spaminator flag on your content... Did you copy and paste once a long time a go without sourcing material and refused to go to Hivewatchers? I have told people to go to Hivewatchers to clear up such situations successfully in the past. I dont think in your situation that will work tho. @guiltyparties @hivewatchers what is the deal with frot? Seems he is one of the few people who is being flagged to 0.
I have been clear with many how I do not think flagging free speech is cool. It is the perspective of the downvoters that free speech shouldn't be monetized, I do not think that is cool and have been cancelled in real life for speaking truth to power. Losing a job for sticking up for people and standing up for their rights suck. But are you here to earn or to spread awareness? I think perhaps in your situation your content is not intended to earn but rather to send a message. I do think that 2nd layer solutions exists for what you are doing and to be honest from what I have seen a lot of people on hive do not care about anti science views and anti government views and want to avoid that conversation not to mention this platform isnt that popular or used by the masses. I have found myself isolated from many people and groups on Hive for my perspectives on my anti-science and anti-government views just like in real life. Heck, I have even found a large anti American bias towards Americans here where many discriminate against Americans for being American. So why even try to bark up a tree that wont get me anywhere? Just me though and I would rather work to find healthy solutions than to repeatedly pound my head against a tree on hive and real life.
I really would like to earn on Hive and if my objective here was to spread truth and awareness than the downvotes wouldnt matter since I would own my content and it wouldnt be deleted. I could easily SEO my content and make it available all across the internet. Heck, that is what the famous youtube celebs are doing here on Hive... Just cross posting their youtube videos here sending everyone to their web 2.0 platforms. I wish they used Threespeak instead and put more effort into utilizing the Hive platform where their content cant be removed.
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23 accounts currently on list comment/post farming. 23 isn't "a couple".