Interns are not people [EN/PT]

"Interns are not people." This was a phrase I once heard at a company where I worked. At the time, it was said in a joking tone, when the topic was the division of a bonus among employees. This tone, as relaxed as it may sound, carries a message that has ended up becoming cultural nowadays, the idea that interns do not have rights, only duties. Within this culture, even the question of whether they should be paid or not comes up. Shouldn’t they be financially compensated?

We can think that yes, the intern is just going through a phase to acquire knowledge and, in the future, apply it. We can see it as a moment of learning, and in fact it should be that way. However, many companies use this to obtain cheap labor or, many times, free labor, and the knowledge that should be passed on simply is not. Interns are often exploited with nothing in return, no salary, no teaching. They are seen only as someone who should be exploited or made the target of jokes.

I understand that, by gaining knowledge as an intern, a right is being exercised. After all, interning is about absorbing experience to apply in a future profession, and this is a requirement of many colleges and technical schools. There is no problem in exchanging time for knowledge, and sometimes this can be worth more than monetary compensation. I myself have exchanged days of work for learning, with no money involved, and I felt I came out ahead. But the reality of day-to-day life is different. Many companies open positions for interns thinking only about the benefit of cheap labor, without structuring a process that makes this exchange fair. That is why, in my opinion, to avoid mistakes and injustice, interns should be paid, regardless of the situation.

By doing this, we ensure that injustice does not prevail. Interns are people who are making an effort and, many times, depend on this compensation to ensure their livelihood. In some cases, they are fathers or mothers seeking qualification to provide a better life. In others, they are children helping with household expenses. There are also those who have no support at all and depend entirely on themselves to survive. In all cases, they are people dedicating their time to becoming professionals and seeking a better life in an honest way.

So, even if they are not yet fully qualified, in my way of thinking, it should be mandatory to pay interns. Because, regardless of the knowledge gained, payment is a matter of justice. We never know each person’s real needs, but we do know that, while interning, many are in a moment of financial vulnerability. And, many times, compensation is not just fair, it is what determines whether someone can continue on this path or not.

Those who are learning also need to live and have bills to pay. It is not just an act of justice, it is an act of empathy, and it conveys a different message from the one many are used to hearing, that “interns are not people.” It sends the idea that "we are rooting for you and that we are here to help you get through this phase of life". A company that acts this way may, in the future, have that same intern back after they graduate. And what company does not need qualified people, and even better, grateful ones? Having someone who was well received, who feels valued, and who carries gratitude tends to generate a much more positive return. Everyone benefits.


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"Estagiário não é gente." Essa foi uma frase que escutei uma vez, em uma empresa em que trabalhava. Na ocasião, foi dita em tom de brincadeira, quando o assunto era a divisão de um bônus entre os colaboradores. Esse tom, por mais que soe descontraído, carrega uma mensagem que acabou se tornando cultural atualmente, a de que estagiários não possuem direitos, apenas deveres. Em meio a essa cultura, até mesmo o questionamento sobre se devem ser remunerados ou não entra em pauta. Não deveriam ser remunerados financeiramente?

Podemos pensar que sim, o estagiário está apenas passando por uma fase para adquirir conhecimento e, no futuro, aplicá-lo. Podemos encarar como um momento de aprendizado, e de fato deveria ser assim. No entanto, muitas empresas utilizam isso para obter mão de obra barata ou, muitas vezes, gratuita, e o conhecimento que deveria ser transmitido simplesmente não é. Estagiários são, com frequência, explorados sem nada em troca, sem salário, sem ensinamentos. São vistos apenas como alguém que deve ser explorado ou alvo de chacota.

Eu entendo que, ao obter conhecimento como estagiário, um direito está sendo exercido. Afinal, estagiar é absorver experiência para aplicar na futura profissão, e isso é uma exigência de muitas faculdades e escolas técnicas. Não há problema em trocar tempo por conhecimento, e às vezes isso pode valer mais do que uma remuneração monetária. Eu mesmo já troquei dias de trabalho por aprendizado, sem dinheiro envolvido, e senti que saí em vantagem. Mas a realidade do dia a dia é diferente. Muitas empresas abrem espaço para estagiários pensando apenas no benefício da mão de obra barata, sem estruturar um processo que torne essa troca justa. Por isso, na minha opinião, para evitar erros e injustiças, o estagiário deveria ser remunerado, independentemente de qualquer situação.

Fazendo isso, garantimos que a injustiça não prevaleça. Estagiários são pessoas que estão se esforçando e, muitas vezes, dependem dessa remuneração para garantir o sustento. Em alguns casos, são pais ou mães de família buscando qualificação para oferecer uma vida melhor. Em outros, são filhos que ajudam nas despesas de casa. Há também aqueles que não têm suporte algum e dependem exclusivamente de si para sobreviver. Em todos os casos, são pessoas dedicando seu tempo para se profissionalizar e buscar uma vida melhor de forma honesta.

Então, mesmo que ainda não estejam totalmente qualificados, dentro da minha forma de pensar, deveria ser obrigatório remunerar estagiários. Pois, independentemente do conhecimento adquirido, o pagamento é uma questão de justiça. Nunca sabemos a real necessidade de cada pessoa, mas sabemos que, ao estagiar, muitos estão em um momento de vulnerabilidade financeira. E, muitas vezes, a remuneração não é apenas justa, é o que define se alguém pode continuar ou não nessa jornada.

Quem aprende também precisa viver e tem contas para pagar. Não é apenas um ato de justiça, é um ato de empatia e transmite uma mensagem diferente daquela a que muitos estão acostumados a ouvir, de que "estagiário não é gente". Passa a ideia de que estamos torcendo por você e estamos aqui para te ajudar a atravessar essa fase da vida. Uma empresa que age dessa forma pode, no futuro, contar com esse mesmo estagiário depois de formado. E qual empresa não precisa de pessoas qualificadas e melhor ainda, gratas? Ter alguém que foi bem recebido, que se sente valorizado e que carrega gratidão tende a gerar um retorno muito mais positivo. Todos saem beneficiados.


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Ouch!.. It's a really complex topic @michupa friend!... In my experience, I was an intern for 120 days (Systems Engineering) as a requirement for my degree, and -to be honest- at the company where I did my internship, they almost made me give up on my degree, holy heavens! 😄... The jokes were awful!; they had me carrying papers between offices and carrying paper for the printers for the first two weeks. To make matters worse, the person assigned as my tutor in the IT department kept telling me things like, "Just do what you're supposed to, don't ask so many questions, I'm not a babysitter," and other such nonsense. I think I was just unlucky, but after the first month, I had already complained to the HR department and my internship tutors teachers, so there was some interaction, and they transferred me to a larger branch of the company where everything changed. Interestingly, after graduating, I worked for four years until I became "data center manager" at that company, and everything worked out well. I even married my wife, who is still my wife today, at the very end of my last month of internship, because at least I was getting paid some money for that experience-gaining phase. Great topic for your article, as always my friend!. Very well researched and presented!

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I can say I understand you perfectly because I went through something similar, and this text was a bit of a vent as well. It is sad to think about how new professionals are shaped, and many of them believe this is normal and will repeat it in the future. Maybe those guys are just a reflection of what was done to them in the past, who knows... but either way, it is not right to treat someone like that when they are there not for fun, but out of necessity, and it hurts me to see the injustices that are done.

What an incredible story, once again!

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This is reality in some companies and it so bad. I hope interns are being introduced to worklife in a more gentle way. It should be looked at as if raising a puppy. Make them feel confident, offer socialising to frienly other workers, and offer some experiences of success. Only then we can get good workers and colleagues. We spend so much part of our life with work, it should be made tolerable and not unbearable.

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I agree. It often feels like just a loophole to get free or very cheap labor, but sometimes the worst part is how interns are actually treated. This cycle of bad behavior becomes self perpetuating, because when they move into higher positions, will they replicate the same treatment? So the right approach would be to raise awareness among companies so this cycle is truly broken, and bring a bit more humanity into creating a more comfortable work environment

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Some people think interns are their slaves or they are not human, but they are. They also deserve help and motivation.

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Every job should be paid fairly

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