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RE: Peakd Adds KE Indicator To User Profile (ENG/ITA)

I don't like the feature because it judges you if you have to make a living (because you are a full-time Hivian) or pay your project from your Hive work. So now I have a bad image because I or my project have to make power downs to pay server costs and manpower and what else there could be within a digital business/enagement?

And what about the value I've brought to all Hivians because I'm working on my/our project? I brought so much money to other Hivians, instead of to my own pocket, because I create awesome & worthy services for Hivians - and I am stupid because of that it looks like! I invested my whole private money, scratch all my pennies together to pay my bills, to do this project; to finance this. To support this "Join the revolution!" (To make this chain a better place! I engage myself like hell, work myself ill for that! Now I become labeld for that?) This slogan is a joke very often by the way! Which revolution? The old systems that oligarchy is ruling here and hammer down your services, if it threatens their standing? In the same time where others have the same services, even more bad constructed, but don't get touched, because they are bigger or be part of the "we foo in a circle"? Fu## that!

Engagement, support, that's not mapped. It's just, "Oh, look, he's doing power downs. He's not worth supporting!" No? I support other Hivians since over 3 years all the time with my project and now I get labeled for it on the most prominent place? Thank you!

This system here is developing more and more aspects that annoy me... Not only oligarchy which is ruling here. Now I become labeld as a "pull away the worth from the chain person/project"? What? That's not just ridiculous, it's discrediting. I feel pissed on me by this, to be honest. Yes, we can say I am stupid! No problem! I am! Because I do this this sh## here! Only my honor and my promises to good Hivians hold me here to deliver my word. Why? As a good person & Hivian! Other "Hivians" (I prefer the word 'user' in this case) adbuse the chain how they can and I try to support where I can? How stupid am I? I love(d?) this blockchain, but maybe I am just stupid to engage in this huge amount without scaming & ripping the people... Or should we create service to scam & rip people? What counts here on the chain? I am sooo mad about this label! Thank you for that, @peakd!

I understand what the label shows/indicates. But the reasons for a power down might be different. But people don't will see this very often. All in all: This label is the thanks for engaging people? Awesome! Clap clap clap. Very delighted by that.

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Hi @powerpaul

So now I have a bad image because I or my project have to make power downs to pay server costs and manpower and what else there could be within a digital business/enagement?

Hi I consider KE a good indicator but only when combined with other elements.
I support people who have a high KE but interact a lot on Hive or create useful things on Hive.

For example the curators of splinterlands consider a KE > 3 as a reason to research and see other factors but it is not something that alone judges and determines curation

For example in your case, you have a KE = 2.85 which is not high but even if you had 10 I would always support you because you are a creator of a nice project and you devote so much time to Hive

Consider that almost all curation projects have a very high KE but that does not mean they are bad projects but it is the opposite they are very useful projects.

For example ocd is one of the most useful manual curation projects and has a KE = 15.73. For projects KE is absolutely useless and in my opinion it is also useless for devs or project creators.

So for nice and useful projects like yours, the KE means and counts for nothing but in the case of a hiver who posts but doesn't interact (doesn't comment or respond to comments), doesn't create and just does power down the KE has value and indicates an account that is not interested in Hive but only in monetization.

I consider KE a good addition to peakd because it is just an information and can be useful especially for new users to understand that building a stake on Hive is important but it is not a judgment in my opinion it is just an evaluation element to be combined with other elements.

In conclusion in my opinion those who will consider the KE an important element alone in deciding who to support will be wrong.
In my opinion, it should not be taken as a judgment but simply as information that, by the way, is easily calculated even without the peakd indicator

I understand what the label shows/indicates. But the reasons for a power down might be different. But people don't will see this very often.

Interaction is a very important element on Hive, and power down is an absolutely possible and legitimate action on Hiveand that's why in my opinion you should not consider KE for what it is not. ' It's just information.

What do you think my friend?
A hug

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Njaaah... In every case I thank you for your answer and the aspects you mentioned. I still don't think that it looks great to have 2.85 or similar or 4.18 like @cryptocompany... I looked for other Hivians or Hive users. Your OCD snapshot... okay... It may be normal to don't have factor 1. My brain still says: "I know how it is 'You receive less support when you power down.'" To see OCD at 15.73 may say "Paul, there are other profiles too with higher than X" - but I am still not happy about. Sure, everybody could calculate this calculation... But... I don't feel great with it. I feel judged - and maybe it is double hard for me, because I try to don't judge. In the sense of "Don't judge if you don't like to be judged."

Ah, damn... yeah... At least you showed me a 15.X...

I agree with you in terms of that it makes it more easy to see the power-down-users which only suck values. But even this might be okay! It is part of the revolution & I am happy about when there are people which can buy their rice with it! I mean this is part of the revolution! To enable money-flow without a boss between.

Okay... And I assume that more people are happy to see a KE, than people in a position like I am. At the end "it is what it is" and "it is". Yeaaaah... okay... I will drink a further Gin now... Lastly I can't do anything against beside to give feedback to @peakd. But I assume I am a little lonely with this and more Hivians will party on this new feature...

I just can hope peoples/supporters aren't scared by this... I agree, it gives us a worthy indicator about other Hivians/users. But why I am not a "other Hivian" too? Yeah... So it counts to show the own quality and value... and lastly to show that somebody is a Hivian in the best sense/try... Yeah... lastly "it is"...

Your answer helped me a little - or maybe it is the Gin !LOL ... Or both... You too! In every case thank you for expanding my view! Thank you for that my bro.

I am still not happy with it... but I don't know if I need to... Because "it is" is sufficient in most cases.

Thank you for your comment! It calmed me down and brought my to acceptance...

Liberty, Hive a great day! Thank you once again. !HUG

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HP is just a factor to consider, but it can't be everything. For example, does it consider the HBD in savings? There are also projects like Splinterlands, or the one you mentioned. Hive is also a factor in helping some people from third-world countries live, because I have seen a few examples in the past. I don't think it's the only thing to consider, so I agree that the label would be annoying. It is nothing more than a factor to consider, but some people will use that to decide who to support or not. It won't change what I will do, though.

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