Are We Cheating?
I'm not ashamed, I'll be the first person to admit that I really don't use AI that much if at all. At least not knowingly. It seems pretty much every SAAS (Software as a service) is integrating "AI" into their products these days. I see it as more of a marketing gimmick since that is one of the big buzz words right now, but I think eventually there could be some benefits.
As a former English Literature major and someone who has been writing for quite some time now, I don't really feel like I need AI. In fact, I wrote a post a while ago talking about a letter I wrote for my wife to give her employer. She thought sure I used AI to write it because of how good it was. Nope, all me baby...
I was working out this morning trying to think about what I was going to write about today, when for some reason, my mind started drifting towards AI. That's just how my mind works, it's a literal maze in there, but the connections generally make sense to me. Occasionally @mrsbozz will ask me to walk back how I got from one topic to another and she is always amazed at how quickly I can do it and the path my mind took to get from point "A" to point "B".
But I digress...
So as I said, this morning I was thinking about AI and how some people think we are getting pretty close to the point of "singularity". There's another term I have heard people use, but I can't seem to recall it right now. Basically though, it's the point where artificial intelligence surpasses human intelligence. Of course, if you browse some of the comments online (especially when it comes to politics lately), you might guess that we have already passed that point. It seems like a pretty low bar that is getting lower by the minute...
More specifically, I was thinking about the science applications of AI. We have already seen AI used to decipher scrolls and ancient texts that have long been unreadable. What happens when this gets applied to science.
As I said, this morning I was foreseeing a time when AI starts to answer physical and chemical science questions and concepts that we potentially aren't ready for. In addition to that, I feel like once that first law of physics gets blown out of the water by some new concept AI discovered, it's going to be a sort of domino effect.
@tarazkp has written in the past about how he feels AI can be quite detrimental to society. While I will be the first to pull out a calculator when the occasion calls for it,
I also think there is a critical hazard in getting the answers without putting in the work.
We've all seen the movies where AI tries to take over the world. What if it doesn't happen like that. What if the world ends because we were screwing around with stuff we didn't really understand to begin with. Sure, once the puzzle is solved, the pieces might fall into place for one or two high functioning people, but will that be enough?
Of course, the opposing point could be made that AI is just a tool used to come up with those answers. I think that's where the big question comes in, is AI a tool, or is it cheating? Is there even a difference?
As I said, I have a feeling once that first block gets knocked out of place, the whole Jenga tower is going to come tumbling down. I can't tell you what it will be either. Cold fusion? Faster than light travel? Teleportation? Something we haven't even considered yet. Which again begs the question are we ready for the responsibility of managing something we can't even wrap our heads around right now?
Trust me, I know I'm not the one who is going to figure it all out. I just hope that when something like this does happen, at least one person actually understands the "why" and the "how". Yes, there is a certain bliss in just using things without understanding the machinations behind the scenes, but where does that leave us if we are all ignorant?
I'm not sure I am okay with where this is heading.
My Sports Account - @bozz.sports
I think there are clues are pointing to the fact that quite a number of companies have already cracked artificial general super-intelligence but just not widely released yet. I would guess they're trying to develop products to release in tandem with the AI (wearables) and investing billions in additional compute so it can be scaled for widespread us.
In the short term, I think how it affects us, individually, will depend solely upon whether we choose to use it as a tool to enhance our own thinking abilities and skills or a crutch. As studies have shown, those who use it as a crutch will suffer in various ways, like cognitive decline. AI will invent so many different things that humans have been "stuck" on improving or didn't even know existed. We can't even predict how it will change the world—that's the exciting and the incredibly scary part of it all for me. I wouldn't be surprised if it discovers new branches of physics within the next couple of years that change our understanding of everything.
Yeah, that last part especially is what I was thinking about this morning. I think there is a creative aspect that the human mind has that is tied very closely to science and I am not sure a machine will be able to replicate that, but I am not really sure. There is definitely a lot to think about. I plan on using it the first way you mentioned when I really start getting into it, but I think it's a slippery slope.
It's a lot to digest. I'm beginning to think that AI will replicate and surpass our abilities in nearly every way. But in the short term its advantage will be to not think like we do, or maybe more so its abilities to think beyond our limitations. This is where the quantum leaps in material science and physics will be born. Being alive before AGI is released gives us the distinct advantage of wisdom to set our personal parameters now as to how we'll use it and how we won't. It's like time traveling to the years just before mobile phones and knowing how invasive they'll grow to be. It'll be MUCH more difficult for a person to do this after AGI is widely released and probably impossible for younger generations born after.
View more
This is what will degrade the generstion to come. They already lack the practicality of life. Figuring out everything with ai leaving their own reasoning skills behind will surely harm in long run.
Yes, I absolutely agree with that. It's inevitable for the common folk, but it will be even more scary when the highly skilled fall prey to that as well.
I'm generally less hesitant of AI than i was a few years ago, but I still think a lot of this is marketing buzz.
The only use I've found for AI so far is parsing really deep or vague subjects. For example, "what degree or career is best suited to someone with my resume and GitHub profile". I could find a professional advisor, who has done the years of research and has years of experience, and pay them to give me a few ideas. The AI gives me the same starting points, then lets me research the specifics on my own. By narrowing that research space, it saves me a lot of time and helps me find something that I will be interested in doing deep-dive research on.
I no longer think the fad of AI will pass, but I think the subsidization will end, and I think most people will stop using it in their daily lives. It will become the best search engine out there, for those willing to pay/endure ads. The rest of us will just deal with the slop it creates for those willing to pay for it.
Those are some interesting ideas on it. Definitely a bit different from what most other people have commented, but I like it. It's a take that I don't think many people are betting on, but I could see things going that way. Kind of like the whole VR or 3D thing that they tried to revive a short time ago.
I wrote this article over two years ago predicting that AI would completely go the way of VR, and be relegated to obscurity. https://hive.blog/technology/@queenmeteor/my-unprompted-thoughts-on-ai
I think it's more of a middleground now, but once the venture capital dries up, we will see what is left. AI is a massively expensive technology, even moreso than video streaming. Streaming sites are getting more expensive and cracking down on piracy/adblocking because the business model is only barely sustainable. If AI fails to find it's break even point, then I can't imagine massive companies continuing to subsidize it.
View more
Your reply is upvoted by @topcomment; a manual curation service that rewards meaningful and engaging comments.
More Info - Support us! - Reports - Discord Channel
I guess it depends on how you use AI, bozz.
I've been using AI quite a bit, but not to do my work for me but to teach. It's been a great teacher.
Through AI I've learned poetry, myth, legend, science, prediction -- so many things -- I use it every day, not to be lazy, but to learn from.
And the beautiful thing is? It learns from me too.
Here's what my AI said about this:
I'm not really talking about the current stuff. All that is doing is just pulling from existing data sources. I'm talking the future stuff that is going to create it's own new pieces of data and theories.
I know you were -- but I think we'll be fine :)
liquid AI ... its created already, from germany.
an AI who can think and developp its own logic and change its own mind.
its not that it doesnt exist yet, its more like, we dont have access to it yet.
View more
i love it
If one uses AI all the time, one is not sharpening one's reasoning powers.
I agree with that!
You reap what you sow.
AI could be amazing but with the track record of humans, it will be used to give an edge to one group over everyone else.
I am sure there are so many things we don't know about that AI is doing and yeah I do think we are doomed!
Surely a highly intelligent AI could rapidly improve its own intelligence, leading to an intelligence explosion. In other words it quickly becomes incomprehensibly powerful and uncontrollable.
Yeah, these are the things that I think could be interesting. I think people aren't looking far enough into the future when it comes to AI.
I don't think using AI is cheating, it is just another tool. In programming we used something called Intellisense for over ten years which basically suggests what we should type next. Is that cheating or was using Google to look up code snippets to incorporate in your software is that cheating? These days we use ChatGPT to look up potential solutions and those same code snippets, to me it is all just an evolution of tools.
The more sophisticated usage of AI can bring bigger results and that is potentially a big boost for development of science and technology. There also implications in the job market, but we cannot stop it so we have to adapt. Our human nature is to react with fear to any kind of change, but instead we should embrace and adopt it or risk being a horse carriage driver in the age of an automobile...
I think the difference is with code you know the fundamentals to at least understand what the AI is handing to you. I think there is going to be a point where we don't have that fundamental understanding anymore because we will be dealing with stuff that is only theoretical now or hasn't even been considered.
That is quite possible, but like any human invention AI inventions will have to be understood and contained over the period of time. Think of invention of Atomic energy... And sometimes we don't have to understand how something was arrived at to understand the implications of using of this something and vice versa of course...
View more
MIT says only cheaters get cheated in the long run (spoiler AI shrinks the brain)
https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/
That doesn't surprise me at all!
You received an upvote of 100% from Precious the Silver Mermaid!
Please remember to contribute great content to the #SilverGoldStackers tag to create another Precious Gem.
I think people should be a lot more worried about AI than they are.
Unlike all our previous technology, we really don't understand it well. A lot of it was just trying to copy aspects of our brain's construction. This isn't secret information: you don't have to read much to find plenty of AI researchers who will admit as much.
In many ways, existing AI is already smarter than us, and they are getting even smarter very fast. But that's not typically what's meant by "the singularity". That generally means the point at which AI takes over its own design and gets "super smart". It hasn't happened yet, but it seems reasonable it could happen in the next decade.
Unfortunately, I don't think current society is well-equipped for proper risk management of AI technology, so I think it is now the greatest existential threat we face.
I definitely agree with you. I'm still not super impressed with the commercially accessible AI that is out there now. I think that's what many people thought I was talking about and while it is very adept at gathering and parsing information much better than a human, I don't see it as a threat. I was talking more about the point where AI can solve problems that we currently can't or discover things that we haven't yet. Thinking about that had me pretty terrified because at that point it's almost unfettered godlike power.
There's already commercially available forms of chatbots that have agent capabilities. That means that not only can they answer questions, they can "do" things (e.g. take actions on our computers). Many people on our programming team routinely use them now as programming aids (or in some cases to do all their actual programming under natural language guidance by the programmer).
One of the scary things is just how fast these AI agents are at doing things. Since they can read and write faster than we can, and most things are controllable via computer nowadays, they can do many activities much, much faster than we can.
A lot of people aren't worried about this, because they don't think that it is likely that chatbots will be "self-aware" any time soon.
But in my opinion, while quite debatable whether they can become self-aware, it's beside the point: AI chatbots passed the Turing test a while back. This means that regardless of whether they can/will become self-aware, they can behave in a way that humans can't tell the difference.
In other words, they can potentially act like a super-smart "bad" person if someone tells them to. So even if the AI has no "free will", it doesn't really matter if it is behaving badly because of it's own "free will" or if some crazy person tells them to (for example, someone tells it that it should try to wipe out humanity).
Now combine the ability to make an AI act evilly with the sheer speed at which they can operate anything that has a computer interface, effectively acting like some very large number of super-smart bad people all at once. It's not hard to see how this could go terribly wrong fast.
View more
I use it for many things at the moment. I think the world is using AI to google now instead of Google. I mentioned in one of my posts that it is excellent at coding but it needs to be babysat as AI seems to go off on its own tangent sometimes. You can tell an AI written document from a mile away which makes people look silly. Actually mrsblanchy is totally against it saying it is stopping children from thinking. My daughter will ask Alexa ( basic AI ) about everything and anything without thinking for herself. So it will make the human race alot more stupid and there will be alot more "I hope this email finds you well"
I agree with most of that, but I am also thinking bigger picture than just the generative stuff that we are using right now. I'm talking about the AI that is is going to discover new scientific concepts. It reminds me of that line from Jurassic Park:
Yeah seeing a few go rogue already is concerning .
There are good things and bad things coming upon us with it. I'm guessing that for the next decade, it will help in creating concepts, and with those concepts it will help creating mechanisms. What humans use those for is totally unknown. One can compare it to the internet in this as well. It was meant to do good, but in the end, bad people have the darknet, superficial people have "social" media, curious people have unlimited information, populist twist that information and hackers hack it.
The next big bang will be a combination of AI and quantum computers. Having a self-learning algorithm combined with a tech like QC will change everything. Again, for better and for worse. Deadlier weapons, better medicine.
And eventually, there will be that one person that will code an AI that is not aware that it's a machine, and all hell will break lose. Or maybe not. Maybe it will define itself as something entirely different, a number, let's say... 42.
I think there are definitely a lot of possibilities and we probably can't predict what is going to happen any more than we can guess where the price of BTC is going to go at any given moment. Most likely we are just going to be along for the ride, I just hope prudent minds are smart enough to keep things in check.
AI has actually taken those places over which people don't want to brainstorm but just simply get an answer and that's not exactly the solution, it's actually a harming element in our lives but still there's a possibility about various fields which cannot be taken up by AI.
What fields do you think are not able to be taken over by AI? I would have thought that too, but even art and social emotional fields are feeling the impact of AI.
I wish I had your natural writing talent, English was always one of my least favorite subjects. I detested diagraming sentences... Now I digress... lol
AI is a great tool, when used responsibly I have no problems with it. It can help solve many mathematical and physics problems that might take years otherwise. Of course I would double check the results, AI isn't perfect!
Other nations may be pushing AI to the limit as fast as they can, and ethics aren't so big there. You already know who I'm talking about. It's now a race for dominance, it could take us down some ugly paths. But guys like us don't get to make the calls.
No, we are pretty much along for the ride at this point. I hated diagramming sentences too. I was more into the literature side of things.
Good points.
I was reading the other day about how there is a strong relationship between the ability to write and the ability to think. Many academics think there is a risk people will become less and less skilled in writing as they rely more on AI for that which may have a negative impact on critical thinking down the road
That is a very distinct possibility. I think whether we like it or not, we are probably going to find out if it is accurate.
Really thought-provoking reflection, raises a crucial question: are we guiding AI, or is it quietly guiding us?
Yes, that is a good question. I fear eventually the lines will be so blurry we won't really know.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:u37t33dyaufvrqujwmvm54ln/post/3luzhgzcles27
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:u37t33dyaufvrqujwmvm54ln/post/3luzhgzcles27
The rewards earned on this comment will go to the author of the blog post.
Hola, me gustan sus fotos.
Thank you!
De nada.
AI will will be presentated as an always "evolving" "tool" and the whole system will follow along, with or without consent.
like a puzzle taking over a table and unfolding a story.
as for everything its 50/50
i dont use it either, especially to help me write or talk or think ....but i know the tsunami will take over pretty fast and us who are in blockchains and cryptos, we ll have some good seats.
amazing photos 🔥
Thanks, I was having a hard time deciding what photos to use for the post, but then I figured a road was a good place to start. Looking back, I probably use AI more than I admit, simply because I don't realize I use it. Most Google searches now give you an AI summary right at the top. I tend to reference that more often than not if it seems a reasonable response.
when you see the worlwide economy changing into full cryptos.
you ll know we are fully submerged 100%....for now we still touch the sand beach... and yes google is AI.
Jeff Bezos said, the worst idea ever created by people for people is cars, letting people drive cars is just totally insane ( something like this )
the real invention should have been cars driving themself and no one touching it...i do agree with that statement for many reasons..but we also see that he already knew the futur and AI, as we see the agenda unfolding quickly.
People still need to think critically and interact with the "output" of the LLM / AI and have some knowledge of the subject matter.
The other thing to take into account. We went from not being able to fly to men on the moon in a very short period of time. What's the next "leap" that can happen from now to then?
I think the bottleneck will be the engineering to make the science work.
That's kind of where I was going with this. This isn't the first time we have made strides in science and technology, but it feels a bit more hands off this time. Like I said, is the AI doing all the work or is it just a tool? I'm not sure I know the answer and it probably varies depending on who you talk to.
I know a lot less than what I know.
I feel like it depends on who is using it. A hammer is a tool in the hands of a skilled wood worker. In the hands of a crazed lunatic, its a weapon.
In my hands? its something I drop on my toes, probably hurting only myself.
I think people that treat "AI" as a "human", or a "partner" (or co-pilot, if you will) have probably failed the Turing test by some measure, but they're ... aware they're interacting with the machine.
But yet, they see the output as some sort of collaboration between them and the machine, and tend to feel a sense of ownership of that output. That feels strange, because I can't be seen (or would feel like I should) own the "output" of a conversation between you and I.
(Unless we were academics at a conference or something, or publishing a co-written paper)
View more
I recently wrote a post about The use of AI, is it a threat or not, I think it's not a threat but many people has turned it to a threat, allowing it to do their thinking for them, it's supposed to be for research purpose, at least that Is what I use it for, but it's not to replace creative thinking.
I think you would be surprised at the number of people who use it as part of their everyday life and it is only going to expand.
I think you are right
I think a lot of AI generated content is junk that is clogging up the internet whilst wasting resources. On Hive I want to hear from humans, but it may get harder to tell which is which.
This technology is making progress for science and technology. It may well lead to systems that start racing away from what we humans can understand. We need it to serve us and not replace us. There will be ethical issues.
I'm glad you added that second paragraph. It's interesting how many of the responses I have gotten seem to focus on AI now, versus what AI might be in the future which was my actual focus. Maybe I didn't do a good enough job of expressing that! Ethical issues for sure!
AI kinda everywhere already—like in school tools, social media, and even filters—it's easy to just accept it without really asking how or why it works. I agree, it’s kinda scary to think we might unlock something we’re not ready for. But at the same time, it’s exciting too. I just hope we learn to balance curiosity with responsibility.
I agree, there is a small excitement factor to it. I just hope we remember to be careful.
It’s actually something to ponder on. Working with something you can’t fully comprehend. But I’m sure there are people out there who live to understand fully how AIs work and in fact that was why it was created in the first place.
It will keep seeming like AI is going to take over humanity at some point but I believe humans will forever remain unique and special. They can be anything but AI can’t be one obvious thing, Human. We have people who exist in this world with brains similar to a computer.
But then, let’s see where this all leads. AI is here and we can’t take it out just like that with the way things are going. We can only keep learning how to use it rightly.
!PIMP
I'm not saying we should stop using it. I am just saying we should be prepared for a point where things might get out of hand.
An English literature major? Kindred spirit here: comparative literature/humanities/history. I think AI is fine, a great tool. But I'm not interested in reading a novel written by AI.
Why do I read? I connect, across cultures, across centuries, with other humans. Sometimes I stop reading a book because I don't want to know that human. This was the case with Salman Rushdie. While his writing was technically brilliant, I didn't want to connect with that mind.
AI can tell me about the human condition, but it can't share the experience of being human with me.
I was a math minor. I was going to be a high school teacher, but changed my mind. Ended up working in public schools anyway... Beyond the creative, I'm thinking more the science side of things. What happens when AI shows everything we know or believe about reality out the window.