The Hive Experience...For A Noob!

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Indeed! I'm actively dealing with this now because im onboarding a trading community thats already familiar with crypto but the head is trying to figure out the most seamless process. The devs are always devving though so i'm not discouraged. There's a lot of new tools on the table from what i hear !CTP

I'm not aware but if we can get rid of hive-3734947y494 for a community name and just call it 'The Awesome Community

This is actually very important, I think that Hive is voluminous, with each process we apply, it's important we aim for simplification. Starting with something like this is important. I've tried onboarding some people, they tire out with the too much information that's there to learn. We're getting better though. Leofinance is aiming towards this simplification, with the sign-up processes

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Onboarding someone who's already vast in crypto to Hive has a little or no issue because they've already understood the basic terms and process but the main issue is someone who doesn't have the broad knowledge of it and that's the problem I'm having everyday with the users I have even onboarded.

Always explaining to them why it won't crash because they keep asking

Explaining every term they come across because they always ask me what the meaning is.

And so on.....

This always make it difficult to onboard new users that doesn't have basic knowledge of crypto because I don't have the strength

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Much love my brother 🙏.

I think I will do a post roughly a week in regarding what I see as instant differences between traditional social media vs Hive on the blockchain. Without getting into the weeds too much, I think there should be certain steps to gain the interest of noobs to come where the grass is greener, before hitting them with the numbers and acronyms. Let's face it, people can be simple.

Being a critical thinker with time to dive, what put me off for awhile was what seemed to be a learning curve that I did not have time for because it is impossible to absorb enough to make a decision on it; it takes commitment.

In short, maybe pitching to folks what is exactly the same about the two platforms (Hive & FakeBook) might help in setting the hook before the fish get scared off.

There is a term related to child psychology called "connect & redirect". The toddler is having a meltdown: you can't bring logic in at that moment because that part of their brain isn't developed yet, you have to connect to their current state and calm them down. Only once they are calm, you then redirect them to the use the logical part of their brain and explain.

For the people that are on "sucker media" (just made that up), instead of instantly trying to redirect their interests to the numbers differences, let's connect them to what they can relate with in Hive--then get them in. Once they are in, then maybe redirect slowly into the new world.

Hide the numbers, hide the charts, because the people that understand that part wont need you to explain it to them anyway.

Let's let people know you can do what you normally do on other platforms, while learning about what crytpo is all about at the same time. This literally is the easiest method of learning about crypto that I have encountered but I did not realize it till I was already in. Without Jons perseverance, it may not have happened.

The BIGGEST plus to Hive I have felt thus far (even more than the earnings aspect), is how the structure breeds positive behaviour. This is the complete opposite of FB, Twitter or any other platform with lobbied funds pumping agendas into everybody's screen. For me, that is even more important than the money. That angle would likely get more feet in the door, but that process has to be as easy as possible. You guys did a great job with the Hive Guide but I would even dumb it down farther before showing that series of videos.

Another suggestion: possibly have two separate approaches; one geared towards content creators/entrepreneurs/business; one other geared towards the average Joe/Jane. The creators will want to hear more on the ability to monetize their craft. The others just want to see what you ate today (until they see what can be done)

I was totally planning on only writing a few sentences but this is what I always do. Its okay though, @jongolson tells me my war and peace tangents will be more welcome here 😅 Maybe I should worry more about a backlash associating FB users to toddlers having tantrums lol.

I found out that Ecency is one of the good place for onboarding. There is also hiveonboard. But overall I hear you that keys are confusing. Saving the keys make it harder on desktop and one has to be careful with the data even posting on cloud in some places like dropbox and Google drive. But if given a time, we eventually get used to as well. I think leofinance would bring in more signups with those lite accounts too.

I’m embarrassed to say I’ve never onboarded anyone. People look at me cross-eyed like I’m selling snake oil. And then they proceed to tell me how much it’s like a Ponzi scheme. Add to those hurdles the fact that I still have areas where my own comprehension isn’t great — which makes me insecure about explaining it, and there are just too many hurdles. So I agree with you that it needs to be much simpler to get started and easier to explain.

welcome @rick-scarrow!

I've been trying to onboard friends in Holland since the Sssstmit days :) and the answers are all the same: too busy, too complicated, maybe in the future, bla bla bla. Didn't even matter when I showed them a post where rewards went above 200 bucks. Nope. Lazy.

And I can say quite surely that plenty of them got into financial trouble when the pandemic appeared and a lot of businesses were closed for a long time. If they only had listened.. Lately I've at least managed to finally show one friend there (thanks to Listnerds!) that his passion has to be shared on Hive and Listnerds as it would do well. He's ill now so it may take another week or two, but at least that's one more convinced.

I've been trying to throw the ball at people here before leaving too, let's see if our last weeks suddenly means a few more onboarded people. :)

I think the community name should be changed as well because it doesn't make that much sense. If they updated it to something more manageable, I think it would be easier on the users and also for SEO purposes but I could be wrong.

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One of the main problems I have come across and friends I have recommended Hive to is RC. The first few days you try a social network, you want to write, comment, read, in short, interact and you do it frantically. Until you have a certain domain that you already make a more leisurely use, but in Hive that is nipped in the bud. At the beginning you have no resources and you just have to stop. That makes many people leave the first day. In a world where we want everything and now waiting 7 days is not effective. It is as if you went into a store to buy clothes and they told you, think about it for 7 days and then come and take the product. How many clothes do you think they would sell?

The onboarding issue currently on hive is what has to be tagged #important.

I consider the possibility of having a new user not having all his keys at first maybe for a 7 days period to get active and owner key.

Posting key can be used for the first seven days and get the other keys, this will be after he or she has been given heads up about how important these keys are, not your key not your vrypto, that the motto here.

Good to have Rick here.

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I think the easiest thing to tell a newbie is to write down all their keys on a bit of paper, stick it in a drawer and forget about it for a month.

Post, comment and engage as you would on any other platform, and upvote others to show your support and appreciation. Ignore everything else.

In a month's time they should have a pretty good idea what Hive is all about and how the ecosystem works.

This is useful. I would tell them to take a photo of it. And label it with key. Create a folder and write something that you can relate with. It just means if you need to use the keys, you have to input it manually !

Zero of the people I have brought to HIVE stayed. None of them had the patience to figure things out. Or got frustrated because their post didn't make $500..

I'll go check your boy out.

Nice post man! We should have someone to create an "onboarding tutorial video" (like SL did)! A short step by step guide would defintly put some clearity to "things"😎 If it was not for the intro video in Splinterlands I would probably got lost right away!

Things are so new to people that you have to "train them like childrens"! It is sooo difficult!

On the other hand...there are so many projects out there that it is easy to get lost in all the things, so using more than 10 minutes on a platform and dont understand a thing would probably send people away to other projects.

Easy onboarding have always been crucial for ones success in early stages... othervice someone else with utilize that unfortunately...

I am crossing my fingers that some great minds here at the blockchain takes this issue seriously and makes it easier🤌

But again, the projects that really onboard people here are soooo great that maybe things will just get sorted out by itself!

Cheers man!

I am also new here. The learning curve is not steep. Steep is a 45 degrees hill, here is so steep it is almost vertical. Jokes aside, if someone is new to the whole blockchain technology it is difficult to understand the mechanics.
ps. at https://giftgiver.site/ everybody can receive a delegation for 7 days.

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Making it easier to starters will go a long way in clearing the small doubts they have as to whether the platfrom is really decentralized or is it a mere w ponzi scheme.

I do not really force people but so far I have brought in a good number of persons though

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Yeah, same thing here, I've been talking about earning crypto through this blogging platform since Steemit was a thing to a bunchk of friends. Some even read my posts when I remember to put them up on Facebook (which I kind of dropped a while ago!). So they see that there's potential... And I've explained to a good handful of friends how we can make some sort of income here by simply interacting the same way you do in other social media platforms, but like you said:

Hive has a massive learning curve that if Rick wasn't a patient guy, might have left before he even got started.

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Had a similar experience while onboarding people that wanted to invest in Splinterlands. The process is insanely complex even for crypto natives. Interestingly enough, people that use Reddit seem to understand communities fairly easily...

I agree that Hive should be a background thing. I bet half of Splinterlands players have no idea what blockchain they are using to play the game and that's exactly how things should be.

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I think that the most difficult concepts to assimilate could be both healing and witnessing, we have to work a lot to simplify those terms because I would say that some of the more advanced users do not understand them very well either.

I think the idea of having Hive be something that is behind the scenes, and having an easy to use, interactive, user interface on top of it is the right direction for Hive. Most people don't care whats behind the technology as long its entertaining and easy to use. I think that allowing for shorter posts, more memes, and videos will help the community grow naturally and encourage more interaction.

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Oh man...

If anyone here ever needs a reality check on their understanding of crypto, just try and explain the intricacies of Hive to a n00b.

Yikes haha!

PS. Welcome aboard @rick-scarrow :)

If you persist, it will 100% be worth it in the long run.

See you around mate!

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I have not onboarded anyone to Hive yet, but I have helped people find CTP and Listnerds, it boggles my mind as to why they do not want to watch the training videos it is weird because they are easy to watch and really short.
Do you find the same thing to be true?