Over 2000 Dollars in 3 Months on Listnerds!

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To be honest with you, I haven't really checked before today how much my LISTNERDS holdings are worth. I knew I could be very pleased by that, since their price is relatively constant on the market and I kept staking, but never did the math until today.

Why today? Because I passed 1000 stacked LISTNERDS today, which places me on the 10th spot on the richlist for the token. Quite matching numbers, isn't it? :)

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At 2 HIVE / LISTNERDS, that means 2020 HIVE. If we round the price of HIVE to 1$, that means 2020 USD. After roughly 3 months since launch, that means 700 USD per month. Not bad, huh? :)

It's obviously awesome, apart from all the other benefits I kept mentioning throughout time for using Listnerds.

Now, when I said 700 USD per month this is not exactly true. Because it started slowly and the amount kept growing as I kept staking more LISTNERDS. You should know that, it's the same principle on Hive, with HIVE Power and curation rewards.

Which means now I make more than 700 dollars per month. But that also means that as competition grows that amount won't be as high. Something you also should know from Hive, the more people share rewards from the reward pool, the less rewards everyone receives.

Am I doing myself a disservice sharing such a "golden secret"? Not at all.

Just think about it, while the LISTNERDS pool will be shared by more people, the activity on Listnerds will increase, there will be more eyeballs to look at your posts or whatever you are sharing there. And all the benefits that come from that.

Now, to earn a lot back from Listnerds is very difficult as a free member and if you don't stake CTP and LISTNERDS onto the platform.

Personally I started from the beginning with a business membership, which allows me to email daily for free (i.e. included in the price of the membership) to a number of accounts. There are a number of other benefits I won't list now (you can check and compare them from inside the site, on the "Upgrade" page), but you should know that I haven't heard anyone who upgraded to at least business who regretted it. Many upgraded directly to enterprise and you can see them at the top of the richlist now.

As a free member you can send an email every 7 days only to other free members (and to your referrals). What you can also do is read emails and earn MAIL tokens, plus the chance to win 5 CTP, 5 LISTNERDS or 10 CTP + 10 LISTNERDS if you get one of the random "shaky-shaky" bonuses as you open emails. Plus vote 1 email per day (or 4 every 4-5 days), if you don't stake any CTP.

What I didn't do, was that I didn't buy LISTNERDS, but I staked everything I earned. Going forward it might be a great idea to buy LISTNERDS, especially when you just started, because there will be a way to earn or win it back (something like buy 10 LISTNERDS, win 10 free LISTNERDS). Not sure when this will start, but this was a hint in the latest show from Blain and Jon. Plus, it's easier to grow by buying an initial stake, when others already have an established stake.

I also staked a good chunk of CTP on Listnerds from my personal stash. 5000 CTP to be exact. I won't stake anything more, as things stand now, because that already gives me 200 votes which is far more than I'll ever need. But I believe 500 CTP staked would be enough for a decent increase in someone's voting power on Listnerds, for starters. Plus staking all additional CTP rewards from Listnerds from there onwards, to increase this stake.

If you look at the numbers I presented you, it obviously pays off to be upgraded in Listnerds and to buy CTP, if you don't have, and LISTNERDS, if you want to start with a nice stash. The only thing one needs to take into consideration is that unstaking LISTNERDS or CTP from Listnerds takes 10 weeks and they won't count for the rewards while being unstaked. Before your Listnerds account becomes self-sustainable, you might need to push some funds into it for a couple of months (mainly to pay for the upgrade).

That's if you want to optimize it and earn more. You can always remain free, but don't expect wonders as a free member.

If you are ok with the long term locking - Listnerds provide one of the best APRs on Hive right now.

If we consider the price of the business membership as 77 HIVE per month (assumed HIVE at 1$), by now three payments would have been made for the business upgrade, if one upgrade on the first day at launch or close to it.

That's 77 x 3 = 231 HIVE for the upgrade.

If you were a long term member of the CTPTalk community, you would have the CTP to stake, no need to buy it. But let's say you'd buy 500 CTP at today's price. That would be 15-20 HIVE, depending on the available offer.

Let's say you also buy 10 LISTNERDS, so you won't start from scratch. That's 20 HIVE. But at the beginning I didn't buy any. I received 2 as an airdrop. I believe you might still receive 1 LISTNERDS as an airdrop as a free member, but I'm not sure.

So that would be about 270 HIVE. To get 2020 HIVE (1010 staked LISTNERDS). You have to keep in mind the staked LISTNERDS could be higher but also lower if your emails don't get validated (at least a 20 difference between upvotes and downvotes).

That's almost a 3000% APR if I calculated right. Anyway, it's a 748% ROI.

What defi? This is the mother of all defis, lol! But you need to put in some daily work, unlike in defi where often all it takes is the click of a few buttons. But the way Listnerds is designed it doesn't count as much if you have 1000 dollars to spend or 100k. While on regular defi platforms it matters.

I still find it amazing that APR! Incredible!

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Listnerds is good as investment. The APR is quite amazing. Maybe a good idea to buy 10 listnerds token. I not sure of the price for upgrade. I don't need the business membership, just normal one !

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Well, premium is better than free, but being able to sent emails every day and 3 times more bonus prospects is an important advantage business gives. Plus additional perks.

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Wow, that is some crazy number and the ROI is impressive. Now if the price holds on, you can only do better.

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Yeah, I'm sure at some point people will want to take some of the profits out.

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Congratulations on hitting the 1000 Listernds milestone! Indeed! a very powerful income stream with a little effort. It's the right time to be in the right position.
Keep up, keeping up.
!ALIVE !LUV1

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Thanks! Yes, growing my LISTNERDS slow and steady.

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Though a free account here, I already had that "shaky-shaky" experience twice: 5 LISTNERDS and 5 CTP.

I will be adding 700 more to my staked CTP and will start with 25 LISTNERDS by the first week of next month.

Congrats on your accomplishments!

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Though a free account here, I already had that "shaky-shaky" experience twice: 5 LISTNERDS and 5 CTP.

Congrats! Same here, I believe.

Membership level doesn't influence chances on finding the ""shaky-shaky" bonuses. Delegating 100 HP to @listnerds account doubles those chances though.

I will be adding 700 more to my staked CTP and will start with 25 LISTNERDS by the first week of next month.

That should improve your experience and rewards significantly on Listnerds.

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100 HP now is huge for me.

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That's fine. I haven't delegated either, and it's not that huge to me. But HP is very valuable.

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I signed up, but honestly have no clue what I am doing, I open and read posts haha but that's all.

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By reading emails you earn MAIL tokens and have a chance to win the bonuses they refer as "shaky-shaky" (because the window shakes when you get them).

You can use the MAIL tokens to send emails of your own. But pile them up, it's no use to send to less than 1000 people, in my opinion. 1 MAIL token = 1 person receiving the email.

You should also upvote emails after you click the link and see the page that opens, but you don't have many upvotes available without staking more CTP on Listnerds.

As I said in my post, it's better to be upgraded. And much more profitable from what we have seen so far.

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Very interesting. I just started digging into this the other day. There are many more facets to it than I realized. I couldn't afford the business so I had to just go with the lower upgrade. We will see what kind of return I can get on it. I can only email every three days, so that could be a huge drawback. My reach is already better though.

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Premium is much better than free, certainly, but the 3 day versus daily limit, and the 3 times fewer bonus prospects make a difference.

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Your math is spot on but just like the stock market the money is paper only until you convert to $$ at least until the world wakes up to crypto. Thanks for sharing.

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If you need them to buy groceries and stuff, yes, for now you need national currencies. Not for long I presume. I already top up my fiat card with crypto. It's just one more step until there will be an entirely crypto card accepted world-wide.

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You do get a free Listnerds for being a free member or at least I did. It shows 1 Locked Listnerds on my own account. Right now I am fine as a free member but I do plan on upgrading to the one where I can send a mail every 3 days eventually. I think that upgrade should pay itself back just in SOLO mails but I am not sure.

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You don't have free solo emails on the premium membership, only on enterprise. But if you are thinking about buying solo emails with MAIL tokens, that can work out. I still believe business or enterprise are more cost effective at the benefits you get, but premium is better than free. It is still the matter of sustaining the upgrade cost for the first few months, and that's something many take into consideration.

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Well, I was considering it more as free SOLO mail because each mail read is 25 mail tokens per reading and the mail already gets 1k people sent to. So I would think the upgrade cost itself would kind of cover itself.

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So I would think the upgrade cost itself would kind of cover itself.

I believe it should.

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This is the mother of DeFis lol

Love that quote man!

And thanks so much for using and supporting the project...We're still going to be improving this stuff and brining out more use cases for both tokens :)

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I was actually surprised when I calculated the ROI and then the APR for an investment in Listnerds. That's something you find in the defi world in the first few days after launching a project. But Listnerds is not a defi project, it's over 3 months old now and its main focus is not to generate yield, and yet it does, exceptionally so.

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I am having the same experience. The return I am getting so far is Amazing. It is definately worth upgrading

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If you could start again today, would you still go business or enterprise?

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Yes I would. Being able to send emails daily (business) or twice a day (enterprise), plus the bonus prospects at no additional cost gives you higher chances that your emails will be validated (you need a difference of 20 between upvotes and downvotes - if not enough people receive it, chances are you won't make those upvotes). Enterprise also has a free solo email which is automatically validated and sent to the entire userbase.

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1K listnerds is a good milestone, congratz 👏
I didn't even realize APR was this high, this project is amazing 🤣
For now, I have a premium plan, I'll try to upgrade to enterprise asap.

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For now, I have a premium plan, I'll try to upgrade to enterprise asap.

How much time do you still have left from your upgrade? Upgrade if it's almost over.

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Congrats on this awesome milestone! Before you know it, 2k Listnerds is knocking on your door!

If I could change one thing, it would be to skip premium and go enterprise immediately :) haha

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If I could change one thing, it would be to skip premium and go enterprise immediately :) haha

That's the advice more people should read well!

Thanks for dropping by.

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LISTNERDS THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN TRY OUT. How can I get the link on how to earn my listeners coin too🥺

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Wow, congrats on earning 1K LISTNERDS! Simply amazing! Excited to see what the future of LISTNERDS will be, both the token and the platform.

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