Why Hive? This is why... A Friday Finance Post
I wanted to title this post "A Tale of Two Posts". Then I remembered I used that title a while ago on another post and it didn't get the traction I expected it to. Apparently we don't have that many literature buffs in here. Either that, or something got lost in translation. Either way, I wasn't able to work it into the title.
Despite that fact, this post is still going to be very much about two posts on two different platforms and the vast disparity between the two.
With a few exceptions, I think it is safe to say that we all have or had a Facebook account at some point in our lives. It's not as popular with the kids and teens these days, but there is a good chance most of them still have a stagnant account sitting out there.
As you will see, I have an account myself, though I don't use it as much as I used to. Believe it or not, aside from my activity here on Hive, I am not that active on social media. As you will also see, there is a good reason for that.
People will often ask me if I have seen something that someone posted on Facebook and I will usually reply with the fact that I haven't been on Facebook in days if not weeks. I actively post maybe twice a year on my feed. One would be for my anniversary and the other would be for @mrsbozz's birthday.
One thing that I have been jumping into more lately on Facebook is the communities. They have some pretty active and vibrant communities on Facebook. It's similar to what we have here, but on a scale that is hard to even comprehend.
Take this post for example:
I posted this in the Weber Kettle Grilling group that I am a part of over on Facebook. Look at those numbers 497 likes, 112 comments, 3 shares, and not a single dime in my pocket for posting this.
To be fair, this community has close to 200,000 members. I couldn't find the exact numbers, but I have a feeling the daily user count for all of Hive is significantly less than that. This shows you the power of community though and the potential that Hive has if we could get more users on here.
In fact, this is proof of just how important these little communities are that we are creating on Hive. They have to start somewhere, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was once a day when the Weber Kettle Community only had 100 or 1000 members.
Now let's contrast that Facebook post with This post from Tuesday. Let's start by looking at the numbers again... 358 upvotes, 38 comments (I'd cut that in half because half of those are probably my replies to people), and 13.47 Hive in rewards.
That last part is the real kicker right? I got absolutely nothing except a warm fuzzy feeling from that post on Facebook. Whereas over on Hive, I am actively earning crypto. I purposely picked this post because it was one of my lowest earners this past week.
But I still earned something right?
I also picked this post because besides the music theme, it wasn't really posted in a specific targeted community. Imagine the difference if it had been and that community on Hive was as robust and active as the communities on Facebook!
Trust me, I know I am preaching to the choir on this one. If you are hear reading this post, you are probably already active on Hive. Then again, maybe I hit some search engine optimization jackpot and this post is showing up on Google for some random reason.
I doubt it though.
The fact remains, Hive is barely scratching the surface of the potential that is here. Sure, there is the barrier to entry aspect, as well as just random stubbornness and fear of the unknown from the general population. I can't help but hope that one day we see this same kind of engagement.
My best advice... If there is something you love, create a community for it. There is a good chance that someone else probably loves it too.
I'm also a member of a Blackstone Griddle community on Facebook. You might recognize the name from some of my posts I have been publishing lately. That community has right around 750,000 members.
Let that sink in....
Almost a million members.
Like I said, imagine the potential!
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Facebook Groups are definitely the best part of their service. But can Hive copy that? I don't think so. 500 likes feels better to people than a mere $10 bucks in silly money that they have no idea how to move to their bank account. If Hive had more users then maybe we could compete with that, but we are bleeding users, not getting more, and certainly not getting the number of new ones we need daily to compete with Facebook.
It goes back to the grandma test. Signing up to Facebook is super easy. So easy that anyone could do it, even a grandma. Of course FB is also super aggressive and build shadow profiles of even people who haven't signed up yet, but that aside, the service is super easy to sign up for. But Hive? Couldn't be harder! Some communities let you do it for free, but not all. That sign up screen alone is confusing! Are all of the sign ups to Hive? Why do some charge and others not? Of course you and I can easily figure it out, but even that sign-up screen fails the grandma test. Then when you do get signed up, you are given these keys in addition to your password. Even I was confused by that back 6 years ago when I signed up, and my major was computer science!
If Hive could be made as easy to sign up for as FB, I think we would be growing much faster. As is, we are shrinking, with fewer new users coming in than the number that hive watchers chases away.
I've been harping on this for the past 6 years. People keep telling me it's not a problem. Yet we get fewer and fewer users every year. I think it is a problem.
I have been saying for a while that all of crypto needs to find a way to integrate with your Google ID or your Apple ID. That way when you download the Ecency app from the store, you just log right in like any other app. They get that sorted out and I think we might have a chance.
hehe A great book, but maybe the cliches are not appreciated as much these days. I bought some charcoal yesterday. Hopefully we keep some good weather abit longer. Im not on the book, so know nothing about it! lol
It was a pretty good book. I had to read it back in university. Ah university... It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... That's awesome on the charcoal! I have about seven bags in my garage waiting to be used. I need to get some lump to play around with soon. You aren't missing much on "The Book".
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Loved your post and love Dickens too. I'm definitely going to be using the ever growing number of Hive tools for a long time.
We're early.
Waves, Leo Threads, V4V, keychain store, wrapped BTC, these are only a handful of the tools being developed that will drive more users to our ecosystem.
Let's hope so. I have been here for close to six years now and we all keep waiting for that one big thing that is going to bring everyone in.
I think It's going to be many little things; not one bog one. I forgot to mention Leo marketing.
I'd be cool with that. I think a lot of us don't really care how, just when! :)
The reality is that, we will never have that on hive because people's expectation change as soon as they know there is earning here. On facebook, people are happy earning likes. You simply can't change that in decades, because crypto itself is not into mainstreams. Then many even don't join because of the complexity of all these passwords, security etc. We simply cannot compete with them - unless we develop some app where everything is smooth for the user and there is a natural instinct in the topic for engagement.
We still have time and we have people that can make it happen if they wanted to. I agree, we probably won't ever reach the level of Facebook. That's just a big ask. Even a tenth of it would be game changing though.
FB Groups share a lot of information depending on which ones you join, too many trolls sit liking without reading, all picture clicking mainly. Still there for a handful of oldies who would never attempt to move cob webs around to learn something new.
Hive is by far a friendlier platform, majority not simply skipping through posts to be seen, although you always have some, others do enjoy reading, learning, sharing knowledge.
Having used both my vote remains with Hive !BEER
I can't disagree with you there!
Have a great weekend, enjoy the BBQ.
Thanks, you too!
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Thanks, I appreciate that! The communities here are what are going to drive us forward I think. They need to be celebrated.
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Facebook groups are much better if what you want is real and selfless interaction, be it science, cars, fashion, etc. The interactions that your post has will be authentic and voluntary expressions of those people (whether negative or positive). Well, having months in a Facebook group without posting or commenting but if you make a post or even a simple interesting question you will have a large number of interactions and comments, in hive it doesn't work that way.
In hive most moderators and curators seek to impose mandatory participation to "support" the posts, because of this users know that they should be commenting with each other (often unspontaneously) just to be on the curators' radar and Due to the fact that our votes are limited, a selection of votes is also involuntarily imposed, (consciously or unconsciously seeking our own benefit $), the ability to earn money in hive is wonderful, but as long as almost mandatory participation in the communities continues to be imposed to have good chances of votes facebook will continue to be much better at the level of real and disinterested interaction (which is the same as many more people on those platforms), regards
That's a good point and part of the reason I think we need to promote the communities here more. Why can't the communities be like that with rewards as a side benefit. I think a lot of it depends on how you are coming into Hive. If you are only coming in to make money then you will probably be disappointed. I know I used that as an example in my post, but maybe we need to normalize not getting rewarded. Probably easy for me to say given my current payout on this post, but still...
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I used to have plenty of groups on FB, But I have no aim yet creating a HIVE community but who knows..... Crazy Songs & Weird Stories might draw in a crowd.
It could, you never know! I'm surprised our whisky community hasn't grown more. There is a huge community outside of Hive that loves whiskey right now.
My parents you mean ;)
Somehow you never know what will go viral and what not. Just like my Gods Unchained post it has 18 comments (half my replies but still more than any music post)
Yeah, I never know what I am going to get upvoted on. Just when I think I might have hit a few auto vote lists, I have a post like the one I shared above.
A million dollar post? That's... scary?
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That would be a bit scary :) But pretty awesome too right?
Beyond awesome... life changing.
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You are right, we have barely scratched the surface. Facebook has 3 billion users. If we get to at least 1% of that. That would be 30 million accounts. And just 1m accounts is already significant. Leo will bring in 10k users i just hope it succeeds and not only that but start a chain reaction that will blow hive up to the moon.
I'd even be okay with .1%. That would still be a significant amount. Time will tell. People have been promising big things for years and nothing has seemed to take hold yet. That's not counting the increased accounts from Splinterlands.
It’s bound to happen soon. I’m claiming it. Haha
"So let it be written, so let it be done."
I like this one
I use a couple of FB groups plus Messenger, but that's about it over there. When I look at my feed it's full of junk they 'suggest' for me. I really don't care about that stuff. On Hive I can control my feed. I'd love to give up FB, but can't just yet.
I know there are groups on FB that are bigger than the whole of Hive. Can you imagine if one of them decided to move over here? There might be issues creating all the accounts, but it would be a big deal. That could be the sort of boost we need, but it will bring challenges.
We have our own groups already, we just need to grow them.
The communities feature is good, but I see some of them just being used to hunt for votes rather than to share an interest. Is there a BBQ one? I want to be able to find posts on topics I like without having to follow lots more people.
Yes, there was one at some point. I don't think it was very active though which is crazy to me. Kind of like our whisky group.
The comparison you have drawn between the engagement and rewards on Facebook versus Hive is truly eye-opening and intriguing. It emphasizes the untapped potential of the Hive platform and the significance of community-building and relationships. Your advice to create communities around shared interests is spot-on, as that is where the real magic of Hive can unfold. It's inspiring to think about the possibilities and the incredible potential for growth and development.
However, somebody like myself that just join the platform. I can say i see a whole lot of benefit hive can offer compared to be on other social media platforms. But there should be an encouragement for new user and also make hive free to create. I had to pay before i could register and also to post without Hive power should be looked into.
Yeah, those are definitely barriers to entry. The services that offer a delegation upon creation are good. I used a faucet when I started and got 15 free tokens to stake.
It’s crazy to me to see so many people on legacy social media missing out. I’m struggling to understand how hive has not taken off. I get that it’s a crypto project but the value proposition is easy to explain. However, it’s hard tog eat people to convert.
I think keys are an issue. As well as some of the over policing. I really think people need to want to join for the community. Let the money part of it be a secondary thing.
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Your advice to create communities around topics you love is spot on. It's a way to bring like-minded individuals together and foster meaningful discussions and content sharing.
I pop into a few FB communities mostly related to where I live in Vietnam only to see that people are mostly just acting like absolute cunts towards strangers simply looking for advice. I never participate in those groups nor am I really looking for advice either, I just go in there to see how mean people have become over the years. Honestly, I heard the other day that a group had to shut down on FB because it became too toxic with people threatening physical violence over disagreements. It was a community about gardening.
That doesn't surprise me at all. There are some people like that in these communities too. Most of the time it is because new users are lazy and they post the same questions over and over instead of doing a quick search to see if someone already asked about whatever. It helps to have moderators, but even then you can't always estimate the capacity for humans to be assholes.