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RE: Although subjectively downvoting posts to zero is anathema to me, the Layer 1 ability to do so must remain (for now at least)
Some shadowy figures who are imposing themselves on the other owners of this blockchain via the current undeveloped DV mechanism.
Most of the time when I hit the downvote button, I've either commented on the post with links to plagiarized content, or someone else has already commented & I'm helping to remove the rewards. The times that don't comment are because I'd already made numerous comments previously about the theft of content (or someone else had), so the account was well aware of why the downvote was happening.
I've also commented (without downvoting) on a number of posts with plagiarism, advising the person that since Hive monetizes content, it operates differently from other social media. I like to give the benefit of the doubt, especially to newer accounts, and try to guide them so they understand how things work around here.
Not sure how all that fits with your shadowy cabal narrative, but I'm sure you'll figure something out.
Oh, and I'm not worried what people think about me - if I were, I wouldn't have publicly stood behind the plagiarism reports I made regarding a community leader (who I won't name, so I won't get accused of "bullying" again). The fact that they copy/pasted & spun content for months, if not years, yet people like yourself still support them - yes as you said, actions speak louder than words.
Oh yeah, now I remember.
Blatant hypocrisy is another reason why I started downvoting him...among other things, like kowtowing to whales while belittling those with smaller wallets.
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Why does someone need to meet up with a lawyer weekly? Did he typo psychiatrist?
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Alright Traci… I have explained this in detail already but let’s go another round around the merry-go-round shall we?
It seems that you have association and representation mixed up.
Let’s put this in another way:
Hypothetical Situation 1
Let’s say that, for some unforeseen reason you managed to (knowingly or unknowingly) get yourself in hot water and break the law in the country you reside. (What I’m about to discuss would be even more critical if the situation I am about to describe were to happen abroad but for simplicity we will keep this example to your local jurisdiction.)
You stand accused and must represent yourself because you made the decision to forego the trial solely on your own merit. You think that you have good reason to believe that you can plead ignorance at worst or innocence at best. However… you are inexperienced and misinformed on how the legal system actually works and what your position currently is.
Things end up turning out badly, as you might imagine.
As it turns out… it would have been better to have some sort of representation. Someone who could show the court a different way of thinking about the incident that took place. Someone that could, at the very least, convince the court to be more lenient on its measures, fitting the judgment to the actual miss step.
Hypothetical Situation 2
[Same exact situation as above… except one small difference.]
This time you are able to procure representation.
Someone to go to bat for you.
Because the representation has experience they know what questions to ask, when to ask them, what order to ask them, and how to ask them.
The conversation in the court room is no longer lopsided and because of this it is discovered that, in actuality, the law that you “broke” was meant to be applied within a whole different context. So the accusations against you, although they did apply in one instance of the law, the law as a whole gives the accused grounds for a significantly lighter ruling.
Because the representation was able to engage all aspects of the case and fully extrapolate discussion around how the situation initially unfolded rather than jail time you are given a small fine in the neighbourhood of $100 US and thereby avoid having your name dragged through the mud and time in prison.
It’s a win for you… but it’s also a win for the entire community because, for the most part, you are someone who cares and is doing a lot of good. Your intentions were good even if the results weren’t the best.
And so the judgment now fits the “crime” but this would never have happened without the representative’s role as the dialog in the court room would have been in the complete and utter control of those accusing you.
A correct verdict, an intelligent one, based on all aspects of the situation and the law would never have been deemed.
So as you can see Traci… there is value in stepping into the gaps and resolving controversial concerns with some form of representation and because of the nature of Hive’s decentralize construct… these are the sorts of things that true owners might (should?) be willing to do. No one can say that I am getting involved where I don’t belong.
And as it turns out, the truth of matters are often not so cut and dry/straightforward so arriving at a proper conclusion is best made when their is someone to intercede as an intermediary.
This is what I did (and have been doing on occasion) and I will continue to do when and where I see best.
I don’t like kangaroo courts, witch hunts, or mob action.
In order to avoid this…
HOW we arrive at our decisions matter.
Just because one group of people decides one way… doesn’t automatically determine someone’s guilt and it certainly doesn’t determine that the “punishment” fits the “crime”.
Could their be a wrong done?
Certainly (advertently or inadvertently) but that doesn’t mean that how we go about that determination doesn’t matter… and it also doesn’t mean that what is ultimately decided fits the incident as a correct measure taken.
The truth needs to be determined with care and consideration if we are to preserve the freedom our foundations are built upon here on the Hive Blockchain.
Representation with an eye to how things are determined is where this all begins.
Finesse is needed and so examining closely how things work up close… it’s vitally important.
This is why and what I am championing.
New and better ways to human require attention to detail and open intuitive minds that want to examine all aspects of how the blockchains working and what needs to be improved.
As well (on a more personal note) you might have noticed…
As soon as you levelled your labels and accusations against me… as soon as you attacked my character… you then had to defend your own.
I hope that we are now on the same page (about this part).
As for the DV issue and those using it for harm… that is an entirely different topic of which I have already clearly defined my position.
Have a good day Traci.
@wil.metcalfe
P.S. For all those wondering what incident Traci is referring to in her comment above here is the link to @purepinay’s post where I decided to step in and try to do some good. The comment(s) I made have been voted to the very bottom of the comments section but I believe they are extremely valid. @appreciator upvoted on the comment… and the shadowy figure we all know as AZ downvoted it (along with his tribe of bullies). Interestingly enough… @appreciator then DV’ed AZ’s comment.
Shots fired? Yes… Signs that this DV in its current structure is inadequate and needs further development so that it can be used to actually control for the things we do not want on this blockchain rather than utilizing it to bring owner against owner.
The DV is, in my opinion, now up for serious review.
To see what transpired follow the link:
https://ecency.com/hivelife/@purepinay/a-valuable-lesson
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