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RE: Although subjectively downvoting posts to zero is anathema to me, the Layer 1 ability to do so must remain (for now at least)

Yes we would need to have a cutoff in place. After the final downvote is cast only the count upvote can be used for x time until finished. I'm sure there are so little holes in there to exploit but I like the overall idea.

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I'm sure there are so little holes in there to exploit but I like the overall idea.

It is one of the best ideas I've heard, to date, in terms of constructively dealing with Layer 1 subjective DVs. Regarding smooth's concern about someone splitting their stake to allow themselves the ability to counter downvotes against themselves, the fact that they have to split their stake means their ability to 'maliciously upvote' is cut in half, because if they use both accounts to upvote a single post, then they lose their ability to counter any downvote(s).

Although I don't know all the history, it seems a fair bit of the 'subjective downvoting' going on is focused on haejin and punishing him for past sins. If that is the case, then I would argue that enacting or keeping systemwide policies aimed primarily at punishing a single individual actually gives that individual far more control (over the platform) than is likely warranted. Just my $0.02 regarding something about which I am not fully informed -- so maybe that perspective is worth a proverbial grain of salt ...

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I used to think that way pre-HF25. I advocated ending the UV window in like 5 days to leave 2 days solely for the DVs.

I basically got what I wanted with the HF25. The effective UV window shrank to a single day (no big deal) and the next 6 days are DVers' home ground.

Guess what, now we are brainstorming how to counter excessive DVs. It is cool you guys already started to brainstorm how to counter excessive "free upvoting". Still, smooth is spot on and the fact that people (good actors and bad actors alike) need to change their voting tactics (as they do after every change of the rulebook) does not mean the system is fixed. Anti-DVers will be temporarily happy until the next hardfork deals with "unfair advantage" of the "free UVs". Just like anyone who has seen a political party of their choice win an election is going to be temporarily happy till the next government cycle kicks in.

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