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Why can't you just curate people without the token burn mechanism in between? Do you think other projects should actively do the same as well? Why do you feel the need to add this utility to the token when there's plenty of other reasons one would want to curate certain users involved in a community or a project?

If tokens were given out for free it'd be one thing, but if you have to delegate or buy the tokens to then burn them to be considered for a votes it's just selective vote buying in the end anyway that benefits your project extra compared to another project which also has tokens but doesn't encourage people to burn the tokens in order to receive hive upvotes.

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[@PowerPaul:] Dear @acidyo, I don't want to sound rude, but I thought we don't want to waste each others time. I say this because some answers you are looking for are pretty obvious. Fair enough, some answers aren't obvious for users who aren't included in the CCCEO community.

I will answer you all of your questions and some included aspects now, but please try to don't waste our time - as you wish by yourself. This is not meant because your questions, but mainly look how much I need to answer you. It's not my strength to wirte short things.

I don't need to answer them, but I like to, because maybe you can gain a better insight about CCCEO. You are welcome!

... but if you have to delegate or buy the tokens ...

You don't have to. You can win them by gaming too. For example within the last two Bro Bang seasons (where I gave away CCD token in worth far over 1000 HIVE + LGN token, maybe roundabout 500 HIVE). For example. This game is far away from lucrative for CCCEO (I will come back to this point later), but I do it because I love to support our (mostly) lovely blockchain.

Or you can receive our tokens when you win in several contests from other Hivians or communities, like photo contest, where the best photo/content wins. You not only can win votes there, but CCD too. So CCCEO curates good content beside "the possibility to exchange votes".

Why can't you just curate people without the token burn mechanism in between?

I do as I explained you in one example. More needed? Do we need to take the time to write and read? I honor your tie and my time too. So... I could call others. Why I have the voting service as addition? Because I need use cases for the token.

Do you think other projects should actively do the same as well?

I think every Hivian should create good content & possibilities which invite to interact with our chain and reward it, yes. I think this is what we need. Engagement & reasons to be here instead of leaving. Do you agree on that? I assume so. Glad again.

Why do you feel the need to add this utility to the token when there's plenty of other reasons one would want to curate certain users involved in a community or a project?

First part of the question: additional use case for the CCD token, to support the price stability of the CCD token. Second part: I do, as I explained above.

... which also has tokens but doesn't encourage people to burn the token ...

I wish that every project will find legit ways to be sustainable and can manage server costs, development, management and so on. When part of this is token burning, I am okay with that. It is part of our versatile ecosystem in my view. In my case/project I can say it is cool when people can exchange (bought at a good price, won, earned, whatever) CCD for example in the voting service.


I hope I answered every question. Did I?

Lastly I want to close with a topic. As you know, developing and maintaining projects aren't easy or always cheap. In the CCCEO case I have spent all my private money into the first 2,5 Years of developing all this stuff - some things like the main game are still in the pipeline and don't will be able to be financed from a few CCD token sales. But why I do that? Because our chain has a slogan which in I believe. "Join the revolution" isn't it? And who has the responsibility for that?

You, I, we. We all. I know countless projects where pull on the same rope to make our chain a revolutionary place, attract users, provide possibilities. (For example I know that there are people where don't have to starve, because Hivians develop projects with a win-win-win component.) Not only this, but especially this, is my reason why I try to create a ecosystem where everybody can grow in. I could do another job where I earn money, instead of working me broke or physical ill. Many Hivians could do so.

I believe in you that you try the same. There are voices which mean that you prefer to serve your own account network with value (people talk about 270 USD self-votes per day) - I don't believe that and I assume it is false. But for sure you can agree that there are some circles/networks of "older" accounts/users (which I don't like to call "Hivians") (and their own side accounts) which abuse our blockchain and give a foo about projects which try to create an environment for everybody. So we both know where some real problems on our blockchain are. Or do you have other experiences?

So let me ask you two question, please: Do you think we as (self-rated) good Hivians should do something against the real exclusion and circle-fooing? Or should we fight against projects, created by love and dedication? Maybe some projects don't do everything right to everyones will, but yes, that's normal in a big society as we are as Hivians. But the projects I know try to do so and would be happy about constructive criticism, a helping hand and support. But sadly I know projects too, where left the chain, because some people prefer to destroy instead of talking. And because of this it makes me glad that you are not one of these - because we obviously talk about how to improve things.

And because I like constructive criticism: Do you have an idea how to keep CCCEO alive with better models? (Yes, I am developing a few other things within CCCEO too, but things need time. Lastly the goal is a whole "universe" of services and games. And the voter is one part which supports that in this time. But maybe you have far better ideas.) I would look forward for support from a Hivian!

Acidyo, I hope it doesn't felt like that I stepped on your feet with some answers or questions. Lastly I would look forward if we all together build a better blockchain.

And if you like, I am looking forward for constructive ideas!

(I have to do other work at my time-related secondary job today and tomorrow too, to be able to finance my time here. So don't take it for bad if I shouldn't be able to answer you today again. But I assume latest on Saturday I will find the time.)

See you later & Hive a great weekend! As I always say: "Make the best out of it!"

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This does feel like an evolved version of vote selling. As @acidyo pointed out having a token to buy just changes the scheme but it's still selling votes for tokens.. burned or not

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