Another One Bites the Dust? Looks Like the Creativecoin Domains Are no More
Maybe I am just a little slow in the uptake here, but I just noticed that when I tried to go to the Creativecoin.xyz domain — where a Hive-Engine "outpost" was hosted for the Creativecoin community — I get the message below:
Maybe I missed an announcement somewhere along the way... or maybe I didn't," since the community has lived a tenuous existence for some time, now.
Meanwhile, the alternative front end at Creativecoin.live appears to have suffered a similar fate:
This version was set up by Hive witness @igormuba who is — as best I can tell — still an active witness.
I am always a bit sad and surprised that this particular community and its token — centered around art and creativity, which is near and dear to many members of the Hive ecosystem — always seems to struggle so much.
After all, it's one of the oldest "tribes" in our community, with a Hive-Engine token that's in well over 20,000 wallets, making it also one of the most widely distributed layer two tokens... actually more so than even powerhouse community LeoFinance/InLeo!
Communities Take Toil and Time to Build!
It definitely does take a massive amount of work, time and persistence to make a serious go of a community. I know this from firsthand experience, having been co-admin of a psychology forum many years ago... it took us thirteen years to build the community from a couple of hundred people to some thirty thousand before I decided to take my leave. The community — founded as a simple message board in 1996 — still exists, now over 200,000 strong.
Around here, it seems like many communities are started with great fanfare and enthusiasm, only to fall by the wayside after a relatively short time.
Of course, dodgy and dubious tokenomics don't help. Sometimes the entire premise of Layer Two communities and tokens seems a bit shaky because they so rarely offer a solid and compelling reason to INVEST and HOLD the token, as opposed to just get the token as a reward and cash out as soon as you can.
After all, if everyone just wants to sell, and nobody's substantially interested in buying, then what's holding the token price up? Certainly not a group of bot operating day traders!
Most communities are also not very lively and dynamic, which leaves relatively limited inspiration for members to actively participate. And activity and participation doesn't magically happen by itself... which is perhaps one of the holdovers from a centralized structure: There has to be a "someone" (or someoneS) willing to relentlessly and tirelessly drive things forward.
Does it Make SENSE?
Of course, you have to have a good starting point, which is why I always felt a strong affinity for CreativeCoin.
Art and creativity is a natural niche; you don't need to "stretch reality" to induce people to believe that they could fit in. What's more, it's a broad enough niche that you aren't just trying to cater to a tiny group of users.
Hive's art-related communities have many thousands of members.
Of course, art and creativity tend to be regarded as substantially non-technical, perhaps leaving the open issue of who with a technical inclination would be interested in substantially contributing (time, expertise, coding, etc) to such a non-technical community?
Of course, some might argue that "you can still use the tag and get the coin!"
Fact, but you're missing the point. Simply collecting tokens from rewards does not constitute sustainable community building!
Anyway, I'm going to leave it at that, for now... see if anyone comments or has any bright ideas!
Till the next one, thanks for stopping by!
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Curator Cat, 2023.10.24
I was a bit narked at the team behind this one. about a year or two ago after some deafening silence from them they came back with a big We're back! post and plans for turbo charging the community and the coin. As part of this they introduced a new token to be airdropped on the holders of CCC, WIT I think it was.
I thought this was awesome but it was only after as the price of CCC spiked and the subsequent radio silence from the team that I realised it was just another pump and dump which is both cynical and sad. I bet they dumped their holdings on the back of that spike then waved goodbye.
Of course I have no evidence of this. Just good old crypto cynicism and the fact that the token and its assoc sites are pretty much ded
Thanks for the commentary @meesterboom!
I'll preface by saying that normally I wouldn't give a flying flip about one of these communities... but this is one of the few niches that actually makes sense. Art and creativity? That's a substantial and well-defined niche, applicable to a substantial chunk of Hive members. To wit, when I checked (just before writing this post) the token is in +/- 22,000 wallets.
The potential is there, notwithstanding that it runs like a munted shitshow.
If memory serves me right, the OCs only begrudgingly ported the community and token from Steem-Engine after the infamous fork, and pretty much said "here it is, but we don't really give a flip. Have fun!" The subsequent effort by @cliffagreen and a few others was "approved" by aforesaid OCs, but it never really got legs and was substantially hampered by a monumental screw-up in the tokenomics of the newly created WIT token that resulted in it reaching 100% distribution in a matter of months. No more tokens; WIT-less. The end. I have 142K of them, and last I checked they were worth a couple of bucks and only being traded in circles by bots.
Perhaps an object lesson in the reality that these layer two tokens have pretty much ZERO value outside the realm of serving as rewards that most people immediately sell and turn into fiat so they can have a spaghetti dinner. Crypto cynical much, lately? Yeah, me too.
I look at the crew that guide the various incarnations and numerous projects of LEO and they are working and coding and adding stuff and interacting pretty much 24/7/365 and even their token barely manages to hold value in a sideways movement sort of way.
Just having a community/token like this and just throwing it out there... not gonna go anywhere. This stuff takes an insane amount of work, dedication, engagement and stick-to-it-iveness to have any chance of succeeding.
Because of the well-travelled niche CCC occupies, however, this one is ripe for being taken over by someone with genuine interest, a clue and some technical savvy.
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I totally agree. It is and was a fabulous idea of a community and token. I wonder if there is a chance it will be picked up and life pumped into it? That would be awesome.
Ah, is that what happened to WIT. I always wondered!
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Oh boo, I hadn't seen that either. :(
Yeah, this seems to happen far too often to this particular community.
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