Should TikTok be banned in the US? The real reason behind the ban.

Soll TikTok in den USA verboten werden? Der wahre Grund hinter dem Bann.

Die Biden-Regierung hat noch kurz vor ihrem Abgang versucht, TikTok in den USA zu verbieten und die Situation is sogar soweit eskaliert, dass der chinesische Anbieter ByteDance einen Tag lang TikTok in den USA gesperrt hat.

Der Betrieb wurde aber wieder aufgenommen und Trump hat angekündigt TikTok nicht verbieten zu wollen.

TikTok ist eines der erfolgreichsten Social Media, hat alleine in den USA 170 Millionen MAU (monthly active users) und weltweit über 1 Milliarde.

Geopolitisch ist das den USA, die sonst bei Internet-Services die Hegemonie besitzen, ein Dorn im Auge. Der Regierung geht es gar nicht so sehr um ein Verbot, sondern sie wollen mit dem angedrohten Bann, ByteDance dazu zwingen, die App mit den amerikanischen Usern an eine US-Firma zu verkaufen. Auf X haben die User sogar gescherzt, dass Elon Musk TikTok kaufen könnte.

TikTok hat sich aber bis jetzt geweigert, die App zu verkaufen, aus nachvollziehbaren Gründen.

Auf der anderen Seite, werden amerikanische Social Media wie X und Facebook in China blockiert. Also ganz fair ist es geopolitisch tatsächlich nicht.

Was meint ihr? Soll Trump TikTok zum Verkauf zwingen/verbieten oder weiter gewähren lassen? Kann so ein Verbot überhaupt funktionieren? Am Tag, wo TikTok in den USA gesperrt war, sind die User angeblich zu einer anderen chinesischen App (Rednote) gewechselt. Das wäre auch nicht im Interesse der USA.

TikTok temporarily shut down in the US on the last day of the Biden administration

https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1880797138919293021

https://x.com/ElonMuskAOC/status/1879294083874922721

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880975630646612254

https://x.com/kangminjlee/status/1879214651436920971

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Should TikTok be banned in the US? The real reason behind the ban.

The Biden administration tried to ban TikTok in the USA shortly before it left office and the situation even escalated to such an extent that the Chinese provider ByteDance blocked TikTok in the US for a day.

However, operations have resumed and Trump has announced that he will not ban TikTok.

TikTok is one of the most successful social media, with 170 million MAU (monthly active users) in the US alone and over 1 billion worldwide.

Geopolitically, this is a thorn in the side of the US, which otherwise enjoys hegemony when it comes to internet services. The government is not so much interested in a ban, but rather in using the threat of a ban to force ByteDance to sell the app with the American users to a US company. On X, users even joked that Elon Musk could buy TikTok.

However, TikTok has so far refused to sell the app, for understandable reasons.

On the other hand, American social media such as X and Facebook are blocked in China. So it really isn't entirely fair from a geopolitical perspective.

What do you think? Should Trump force/ban TikTok to sell or let it continue to operate? Can such a ban even work? The day TikTok was banned in the US, users allegedly switched to another Chinese app (Rednote). That would not be in the interests of the US either.

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Tiktok sollte überall gebannt werden, nicht aus (geo)politischen Gründen, sondern weil es massiv zur Verdummung der Massen beiträgt. Es ist wie eine Droge, die die Leute davon abhät, ihr Gehirn zu benutzen. Die Chinesen selbst sehen diesen Tiktok-Content gar nicht, der ist nur fürs Ausland bestimmt! Sagt doch alles, oder?

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Only problem I have with tiktok is allowing very bad trends. But, in general I don't think anything should be banned, and it's only up to people how they use any type of tool they are given. The social media overall is having bad influence on children today, but I blame in on parent's for not controling children and what they do on the internet. But their reasons for banning are political, and in the end, if not tiktok, there will be something new.

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It's a tough decision, but I don't think it should be banned. People should have the right to use what they want, and I don't know if I trust the US government with the information collected either.

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Tatsächlich bin ich in dem Thema nicht drin.
Grundsätzlich bin ich gegen solche Bans in einer freien Marktwirtschaft. Andererseits macht es China ja in anderen Bereichen genauso. Unternehmen, die ich China Fuß fassen wollen sind gezwungen Joint Ventures mit chinesischen Unternehmen zu gründen, damit China nicht ausgebeutet wird und auch ein Stück vom Kuchen abbekommt.

Daher kann ich die amerikanische Idee schon nachvollziehen.

Die Sicherheitspolitischen Bedenken sind imo vorgeschoben. Wenn es wirklich darum ginge müsste Amerika noch wesentlich mehr Apps aus China in den USA verbieten.

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Here TikTok is used by teens to watch and produce dumb stuff, I don't know abroad, but should be banned forever here 🤣

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It makes no sense to ban tiktok but leave every other China app most of which collect even more info on you on the app store. Legit makes no sense. It should either be across the board or not at all.

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Banning TikTok would just make the young generations to be mad especially the ones who are using it most of the time

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Either or, I don't care about TikTok.

But I don't like the message it sends, what if they start banning more stuff, stuff that I actually care about . . . Then I would get furious.

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I think the Chinese will sell. Trump made it very clear. If they want to continue to make money in the US, they must cut the Americans in. Keep in mind that the TikTok boss was invited to the inauguration to rub shoulders with the likes of Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg.

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That 170 million people use TikTok says a lot about American society. Free market Doland free market.

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TikTok's users are increasing day by day but here we have even very young kids getting addicted to it. But honestly many of us here have made it vulgar which is a serious threat to children or people of all ages.

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krass wie viele das nutzen...
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War auch überrascht, das wäre jeder 2. Amerikaner im Monat, aber kommt darauf an, ob sie auch Webzugriffe, Einbettungen zählen, manchmal schaue ich mir auch einen TikTok-Link an.

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Beeindruckende Zahlen d.h. knapp die Hälfte der Amerikaner benutzen TikTok. Mit einem VPN können die das Verbot doch locker umgehen.

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Wasn't Trump trying to ban TikTok during his first term? Or was it another app? It's hard to keep up with every crazy stunt the politicians pull 😅

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Yeah, Trump also tried to ban TikTok in his first term.

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Haha I know it's just a parody account, but it would be Hilarious if Elon Musk bought TikTok and named it XVideos.

I mean he would be crazy enough to do it, for the memes.

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Die App gehört ja auch verboten!
Die macht die ganzen Leute mürbe in der Rübe und die Kapazität der Leute ist eh schon nicht in Höchstform. Vor allem Kinder sollten sie verboten bekommen, so wie Facebook und auch das X von Elon Musk... X steht im übrigen auch immer für Satan.

Und ich ne menge Dinge gesehen haben die ihn unglaubwürdig machen- die Leute sollten aber in einen Pulg auf die Plattform getrieben werden mit Täuschung im Bezug auf die Meinungsfreiheit und nun folgen wieder alle dem Trump der das Tier aus der Bibel sein wird, welches die Wunde erlitt und seine Macht einen anderen Tier (meiner Meinung nach Elon Musk) geben wird.

Lasst euch doch nicht in die Irre führen, von Irreführern!

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There are so many informations about this. Some people even posted that TikTok is restored back in the USA
I think that’s fake though

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I think it was indeed restored after a day, the shut down was only temporary.

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I have already tried the Red Note application, the truth is that it is very similar to Tik Tok but I am not used to looking at the Chinese lyrics. I would prefer it to be already translated, of course. They also showed those videos of what China is really like and it really surprises me that their city is so beautiful and the great variety of foods that they eat and for little money the ambulances are practically free. Also, some Chinese people in their videos show that they speak English and some speak Spanish. Although of course their Spanish sounds a little strange. 🤣🤭

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i think the bottom line is that they just want to buy tiktok.

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If Elon Musk buys TikTok, it may not be fun again
I think so

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Even if TikTok is banned in the US, people will continue to use it using VPNs. The Trump administration will not ban TikTok.

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It is hard to ban TikTok as it is widely used by a lot of people and it would cause rage to them

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The app is very successful and banning it in a huge area like US will be impactful

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Trump has said that Tik Tok will be opened again, but people use it here. In our country, it was closed earlier, but it has been reopened.

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It's a huge blow to the freedom of speech. First they take a finger, then the whole arm.

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I'm with Musk on this one. Freedom!! 😎👊

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The use of social networks and censorship are sensitive issues that cross an imaginary line.

For my concept should not intervene social networks.

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