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Fair enough. One reason I care is because @lasseehlers can ruin the second layer of Hive single-handedly and I would love for @lasseehlers to have a redemption arc. I don't think that @lasseehlers' redemption will ever happen but I would love for @lasseehlers to become better and prove me wrong.
I don't think Hive-Engine tokens are security tokens. I believe I could make a good argument for that. However, if I were in a debate and I had to argue the opposite that H-E tokens are securities I am confident I could make a strong case by just using Lassecash as my foundation. I would point to every single time in a post @lasseehlers refers to Lassecash as a "product". I would cite every post where @lasseehlers tries to pump Lassecash by alluding to future price growth of Lassecash. The pattern I've laid out in my post would be just the frosting on the cake to make Hive-Engine tokens look bad.
If I can argue it as a layperson then the SEC can do even better and eviscerate Lassecash and quite possibly bring down Hive-Engine with it. I don't like that and @lasseehlers doesn't take regulation seriously because he thinks his anarchist philosophy is some kind of defense or excuse.
I suppose that's a worthy concern, but honestly, I can rattle off the top of my head a dozen H-E tokens that are securities prima facie; deciding whether or not to get involved is part of the risk of living in the Wild West...Lasse ain't a ship I'm going down on.
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Tribe tokens are definitely not cryptocurrency tokens or security tokens. They don't even require a blockchain, there gamification tokens controlled by one single person or group who can 10000X supply or do really anything with a few buttons pushed. I like and hold some but they aren't cryptos at all.