Substantive statements aren't ever a waste of time - unless their recipient doesn't read them, but that's on the recipient, not the speaker.
Look. I agree 'it takes a fuck of a lot more than 20 people' to create functional society. That's the fundamental reason I detest plutocracy, both overt, as on Hive, and covert, as democracies. I know that myriad things have vastly more value to humans individually and severally than money. That fact is why it's so shocking to hear Mike Tyson saying that Don King would sell his momma for a dollar.
What magic you refer to in falling apples transforming into a pie is an apt description of the expectation of minnows and dolphins voting on DHF proposals mattering, when one whale vote outweighs the whole assembly of them. Apples falling turns into a mess that has to be cleaned up IRL. In the fall when I'm out hunting innawoods, I lurk abandoned apple orchards pioneers in the area planted when homesteading, because everything I hunt loves the apples. Black bears hoover up the fallen apples and shit them out hardly digested, leaving piles of what very much looks like apple pie filling - but is absolutely piles of shit.
Reality isn't what we wish it was. Wishing doesn't make it so. Systems designed to produce desirable results are what makes things so, what transforms apples into pie, instead of piles of shit.
That's why I propose above changing how the DHF is spent, so that only the relative portion of the fund to a Hive users stake is disbursed for proposals that user voted for and passed, while such portion of the DHF fund apportioned to non-voters for such proposal are not disbursed for proposals they do not vote for, and are available to be disbursed only on proposals that pass they do vote for. I believe that would encourage people to be more attentive to the functionality of proposals, to the accounting and returns detailed in proposals, because they'd not be able to vote to spend from the funds apportioned in the DHF to other users, but only funds apportioned to themselves that they would spend down by voting for proposals. Instead of just magically spending other people's money, they'd be spending their own (or it would feel like spending their own money, despite it not being anything they earned, created, or owned).
Prudence is fundamentally important to economic success, and that sense of responsibility I expect to be invoked by this means would cause most people to exercise more prudence in considering DHF proposals, which would require grant seekers to provide accounting details in their proposals. That may not change relative power between the substantively staked and those less so, but I reckon it would dramatically change the discussion by changing how people looked at the DHF funds.
A bientot.
Just want you to know I read this. Also, it's the weekend and sitting in the comment section under a post isn't something I wanted to be doing, but here I am.
Some families destroy themselves, arguing over money.
Lottery winners. What's going on there? All it takes is five years and they're worse off than they were before they bought that ticket. That win gave them the biggest rush of their life. So they buy the fast car nobody else has, get the rush again but not as intense. Start handing out money to friends and family, feeding off that good time energy. Always chasing that initial rush through reckless endeavors until it's impossible to feel good about anything. Might have a little bit left but they're permanently miserable with a life full of regrets.
People ask for funding, it gets approved, and they think it's a win.
Several backing it feel like, winners.
I know where this leads...
Strange because I don't feel like a loser when the things I disagree with get funding. In the same way I'm happy for others when they succeed.
I look around and see a lot of complaining (an endless stream and can even be seen above) about all that money being wasted. All while they're utilizing several products all funded by the DHF, just to get those words out.
A clear indication it's all taken for granted.
I don't really have anything to add to your thoughts and I know changing the actual system is easier said than done, so I don't want to invest time coming up with a new plan in a comment section with you.
People are more than welcome to come up with a better solution. I've always been the type who'll repurpose tools. Right now I don't see nearly enough participation. The knife won't cut. Why? Because we're using the dull side.
So before I'd ever get behind a total makeover, I'd at least like to see this thing running at its full potential (or as close to it as possible). You insist they're powerless and will just get smashed, regardless. I will disagree with that mindset, forever.
Thing is, doesn't matter how much HP one owns here. Everyone wins some, and loses some. All on the same playing field with equal opportunity.