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Extraction isn't always bad, what is bad however is extraction for close to no effort put into the rewards. I had to downvote a returning extractor recently who simply posts twice per day very short clips of things they also post everywhere else. Doesn't engage, doesn't attempt to link back to Hive anywhere else yet Hive is the main source of income for them due to autovotes so they don't bother to be a value-add to the community.
I was called a dictator even though I only adjusted 50-60% of the rewards down on the overrewarded posts (in terms of hive, not $ of course).
I think we should put more pressure on stakeholders to check what they're voting on and if they don't respond/care then downvotes adjusting the rewards down should be made more normal without drama involved. Just because we can see who's doing the downvotes doesn't mean we need to call them dictators and that they wanna kill Hive when they're merely spending time trying to protect the reward pool for no gain.
Best is of course if the curators agree that they may be getting overrewarded. Some favoritism is okay but if you overdo it and constantly keep rewarding extractors that bring little back to the ecosystem you create entitlement and stigmatize those trying to protect the pool.
There's plenty of other things you can vote on that aren't a negative on hive if you feel like there's too few authors to vote on so you justify it that way to overreward the few that bring little value to the ecosystem. Or simply focus on rewrding those active with a track record that they're trying to bring value to Hive over time.
I think extraction is always bad for Hive, though extraction doesn't immediately make you a bad person. If someone extracts some Hive, but also grows their account for me it's different than someone that extracts everything.
I think we should have a discussion with stakeholders, big and small, about who we upvote. Downvotes always cause drama and I think not many people are willing to risk their account downvoting a large stakeholder. I'm not.
People could upvote some more new authors (that would help user retention too) or structurally upvote projects. There are enough projects on Hive that are self supporting and could benefit from some extra upvotes.
I've been trying to promote that earlier, but that didn't took off.
I had a user in my autovote in the past who was mostly running into the automatic and had no engagement in the blockchain. It is said because it was a user that I really appreciated the texts from when I joined. But it is like you said: sometimes we want to help and think that this user is promising, but the years pass, and the user stagnates; let's say.
Downvotes are always associated with drama! And I know that there are medium/big stakeholders who are still against it. I hate to debate, but it is here to be used, right? But one thing that you said in a comment is true, and it can fit in any place in this discussion. Nothing is white and black. And probably one person that I really deserve to be ignored m, maybe in your point of view, deserves a vote and vice versa.
Maybe the main and important thing to think about is to see people who care about the community; even in projects that somehow failed, they can't be forgotten. That's why, in those debates about DHF on Discord, I try to be neutral, even if some projects I really was against since the beginning because I didn't see any sense; I know that people behind them at least are trying to make the community better.
Yeah I've been against most of the things being funded over the years, mainly seemed like some just taking because they can and enriching themselves with very little progress or spending the funds to bring attention to the project/ecosystem. That's why I never made a proposal cause I felt like when I do I wanna make sure it gets put to good use - until I had to due to development costs and debt we got into with Holozing. Now things are cheaper to develop so I kinda feel like the DHF isn't going to be abused as much just because they are devs who can create something, they're going to need to be really unique and promising and crucial to the ecosystem to get funded since everyone and their mom's can develop things now.
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On hive it's like some people don't realise everything is documented and you can never hide from the truth ππππππ»

@acidyo @neoxian @themarkymark @hurtlocker @jacobtothe @steevc @meno @theycallmedan @shitposthive @ryivhnn @crimsonclad and friends β¨ββ¨πππ
Do you really think no one sees what you do π€
@acidyo You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation π @steevc knows all about it
You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades π
You are so sad doing what you do
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Selfvoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©
You have downvoted so many people away for no reason
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It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies ππππ
Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb πππππ
Everything is documented
So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth
You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid π

I hope you understand you are only making it worse π
Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you π€
It seems you love to game Hive don't you π
Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop π
You have shown all the real issues with Hive π you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive π
You are in god mode π activated π you Marky Dan and others πππππ
I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from π which you like to call spam πππ
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@jacobtothe and friends Please get help there's clearly something wrong with you ππΎ
I hope blocktrades pays you well enough ππππ
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive π by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person π§
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ Keep calling the truth lies πβπΎ
So many pretend to be doing god's work but they are really working for the devil πΏ
Karma will strike you and who ever supports you ππΎ
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To @jacobtothe and friends π
@crimsonclad please do your job ππΎ
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P ππΎ
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
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Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
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π The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam πππππ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
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https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/themarkymark
https://hive.blog/hive-178138/@thefed/t6q9kb ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ
https://hive.blog/music/@geneeverett33/11-25-25-three-tune-tuesday-picking-tunes-from-the-punk-band-the-descendents-1982-1997-era
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https://hive.blog/dmania/@steemcleaners/ps46kb
https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@fjworld/re-peaksnaps-t7161i
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https://blurt.blog/blurt-131902/@condividisulweb/3w94e8-hive-manipulation-censorship-and-suspicious-funds-the-hidden-truth
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https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is ππ»
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars π€π§ and a account to hold 24 million dollars π° crazy
To everyone who is turning a blind eye to the truth karma will strike you down ππΎ
Stop Doing the devils work do gods work ππΎ
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#themarkymarkfiles #buildawhalefiles #acidyofiles #hurtlockerfiles #
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Extraction isn't always bad πππ are you ok π€ππππππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎπΏπΏπΏ
Happy Wednesday everyone ππΎ please read and share may the truth be with you ππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
On hive it's like some people don't realise everything is documented and you can never hide from the truth ππππππ»

@acidyo @neoxian @themarkymark @hurtlocker @jacobtothe @steevc @meno @theycallmedan @shitposthive @ryivhnn @crimsonclad and friends β¨ββ¨πππ
Do you really think no one sees what you do π€
@acidyo You took my rep away for no reason with the help of blocktrades delegation π @steevc knows all about it
You and themarkymark work for blocktrades or are blocktrades π
You are so sad doing what you do
Promoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©
Selfvoting your π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©π©
You have downvoted so many people away for no reason
You really need to have a hard long look in the mirror and see what you have become
It doesn't matter if you have people who believe anything you say for a few cents or a few pennies ππππ
Look at your buddy oldsoulnewb πππππ
Everything is documented
So the choice is yours again leave me alone and bring my rep back and I will stop sharing the truth
You can call my long copy paste comments spam but it only makes you look stupid π

I hope you understand you are only making it worse π
Hive is not a game it might be a big game to you π€
It seems you love to game Hive don't you π
Everyone sees don't you think it's time to stop π
You have shown all the real issues with Hive π you have shown why real people couldn't invest in Hive and build on Hive π
You are in god mode π activated π you Marky Dan and others πππππ
I hope you enjoyed this post or you might see in comment from π which you like to call spam πππ
@jacobtothe Keep digging just remember @acidyo took my rep away with the help of blocktrades delegations and everything is documented πππ
βπΎβ¨ββ¨βπΎπ»π»π»π»
ππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
@jacobtothe and friends Please get help there's clearly something wrong with you ππΎ
I hope blocktrades pays you well enough ππππ
Some people just never learn when πππππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎππΎ
@jacobtothe @behiver @zakludick @livinguktaiwan @juliakponsford @oflyhigh @abit @adm @eval @hivetoday @findingfreedom @traciyork @abitmore @rimurutempest @hurtlocker @hurt-locker @epstein @gundamzerofour @gundamzerotwo @gundamzerofive @buratus @silverd510 @new.things @gungunkrishu @tarabh @nattosenpai @fw206 @ocd @acidyo @hivetrending @mrtats @poshtoken @davideownzall @thehive @art-anon @lazzvi @juliakponsford @dudeontheweb @consciouscat @caspermoeller89 @strawhat @angeluxx @cositav @rachaeldwatson @artofwar74 @solumviz @poshtoken.wallet @shiftrox @hiddenblade @hivegc @alohaed @tobias-g @nattosenpai @hivetrending @erikah @davidke20 @davideownzall @zingtoken @honey-swap @friendlymoose @x-rain @hivegc @lazy-panda @rishi556 @ocd-witness @russia-btc @ocdb @justinw @nutritree @themarkymark @geekgirl @buynburn @stresskiller @forkyishere @forykw @belikechuck @leovoter @upmyvote @punkteam @makerhacks @wiseagent @steevc @pibara @davidthompson57 @dead-pets @videoaddiction @annoyingmosquito @meesterboom @demotruk @meno @thelittlebank @knot @buttcoins @snapie @coolmole @davidickeyyall @crimsonclad @smooth @oldsoulnewb @ds-tech @artgirl @flemingfarm @neoxian @nwothini335 @bdvoter.cur @zaku @mango-juice @empo.voter @empoderat @ferranlogs @trumpman @bhattg @azircon @riverflows @lazy-panda @gogreenbuddy @build-it @tarazkp @buildawhale @logic @abit @freedom @solominer @letusbuyhive @bijoy12 @sagarkothari88 @theycallmedan @ipromote @apeminingclub @nathen007 @dlmmqb @slobberchops @chops316 @littlenewthings @bozz @adm @abit @cwow2 @scribblingramma @adm @logic @savvyplayer @patrice @spaminator @topcomment @theworldaroundme @jongolson @mobi72 and friends β¨ββ¨ Please get help ππΎ
@jacobtothe @acidyo @themarkymark @hurtlocker and friends π No one will ever trust you again you weirdo π
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Hello everyone I hope you are all good and well today in this post is some of the evidence to prove my case
If you didn't know I've been getting downvoted for a long time on Hive
They have been trying to bully me with downvotes and words but it doesn't affect me I've been online for over 25 years
So I've dealt with people like this before it's nothing new
But what they are doing is bad Very badi joined steemit like everyone else thinking it offers freedom but I must say steemit offered much more freedom than Hive does
Everyone already knows I only post my own original content I have no need to steal anything from anyone
I've been labelled a lot of things on Hive π by the biggest farmers scammers and downvoters
Actions speak louder than any words do especially when them words are coming from a compolsive liars
I will keep updating this post when I get time
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-16-09-2025-20250916181314
https://hive.blog/hivedev/@makerhacks/please-peakd-allow-me-to-completely-block-spammers-would-you-ever-vote-for-this
https://hive.blog/hive-167547/@dlmmqb/re-kgakakillerg-t34wy6
https://hive.blog/hive-170475/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t32sw1
https://hive.blog/hive-167922/@themarkymark/re-kgakakillerg-t30ziu
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-29-09-2025-20250929172045
No downvotes for this racist person π§
https://hive.blog/hive-196387/@acidyo/re-kgakakillerg-t41yr6
https://hive.blog/dvs/@dhedge/re-kgakakillerg-t3clz3
https://hive.blog/hive-150329/@kgakakillerg/t3a8fu
https://hive.blog/musical/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-t2kz1m this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ Keep calling the truth lies πβπΎ
So many pretend to be doing god's work but they are really working for the devil πΏ
Karma will strike you and who ever supports you ππΎ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
To @jacobtothe and friends π
@crimsonclad please do your job ππΎ
https://hive.blog/hive-135178/@crimsonclad/re-kgakakillerg-sxllhv
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svftu9
https://hive.blog/hive-148441/@hivewatchers/svdjjz
https://hive.blog/hive-176853/@steevc/re-kgakakillerg-syyy4x
https://hive.blog/dev/@howo/re-kgakakillerg-szhax7
https://hive.blog/hive/@steevc/follow-friday-respect
https://hive.blog/hive-127022/@shmoogleosukami/re-kgakakillerg-t0hcxc
It's unbelievable that they downvoted this Goodbye Auntie R.I.P ππΎ
Comments being downvoted by blocktrades https://hive.blog/hive-170744/@kgakakillerg/t0ns3b
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@steevc/re-blocktrades-t0kint
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@blocktrades/t0lq41
https://hive.blog/hive/@ureka.stats/the-untrending-report-hive-downvote-analysis-2025-06-29-20250629143829
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0m1vn
https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/t0rfo8
https://hive.blog/hive-127466/@kgakakillerg/t0vcl7
Stop farming Hive https://hive.blog/burnpost/@buildawhale/re-1756307402814502169-20250827t151240z
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π The Untrending Report - Hive Downvote Analysis - 2025-09-07
RE: Understanding Pointers in C Programming
Please Peakd, allow me to completely block spammers (Would you ever vote for this?) thanks for exposing yourself more @makerhacks
Please go through it all instead of calling it spam πππππ€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£
https://blurt.blog/hive/@candy49/5slvnx-taskmaster4450-is-being-downvoted-on-hive-by-you-know-who
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https://hive.blog/hive-108278/@kgakakillerg/themarkymark
https://hive.blog/hive-178138/@thefed/t6q9kb ππππππππ¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨π¨πππππ
https://hive.blog/music/@geneeverett33/11-25-25-three-tune-tuesday-picking-tunes-from-the-punk-band-the-descendents-1982-1997-era
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https://hive.blog/dmania/@steemcleaners/ps46kb
https://hive.blog/hive-124838/@fjworld/re-peaksnaps-t7161i
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https://blurt.blog/blurt-131902/@condividisulweb/3w94e8-hive-manipulation-censorship-and-suspicious-funds-the-hidden-truth
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https://hive.blog/hive/@kgakakillerg/i-ve-been-put-on-two-blacklists
Thank you for reading and viewing this post
To all the downvoters on Hive When the downvotes stop π and my rep is back I stop sharing the truth ππΎ
I'm sharing the truth I know it hurts you but it is what it is ππ»
It's crazy that hives market cap is 36 million dollars π€π§ and a account to hold 24 million dollars π° crazy
To everyone who is turning a blind eye to the truth karma will strike you down ππΎ
Stop Doing the devils work do gods work ππΎ
βπΎπππππππππ·πΈπΈ
βπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎβπΎ
#themarkymarkfiles #buildawhalefiles #acidyofiles #hurtlockerfiles #
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