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RE: Downvote Drama: Do regular quizzes, giveaways and competitions create value on Hive? Do downvotes destroy the platform? My consequences.
Also good points for downvoting, but it feels really bad getting downvoted, and not knowing in the first moment what happened, why getting downvoted, only getting the information after replying back and forth. I think downvotes also work differently on hive like on reddit. On reddit users are more used to downvotes whereas here it feels more like a flag, removing rewards, appreciation etc.
I know it's not a good excuse, but the problem/practice of self-voting is much more far spread than most users think. @mein-senf-dazu did a brief analysis now using hive sql, and found out that 27% accounts are self-voting in September, some big whales getting the majority of Rshares.
I think if we agree to ban self-votes, account farming, vote selling, bot delegations to self-upvote a group of users only, we should do it for all users not just a few, randomly picked.
As I said I personally am a lot less against self-votes as others, as @gtg once said, if you don't value your own post, why post it to begin with? It's more about doing it excessively and if the intention is always to do it for the returns with as little effort as possible behind the actual content. I'd have nothing against most users self-voting as most don't post more than once or twice per day and most of them don't shitpost/low effort but I appreciate that many of them don't as it's nice to have extra voting power to trail or delegate to a project that supports newcomers/underrewarded users if you're not going to curate yourself.
Either way, that post seems interesting, the number seem quite high indeed. I'd be interested in knowing more info about those accounts and what the self-votes do (for instance I some times "self-vote" @poshtoken and @redditposh but it's not like the rewards are my own gain). Would also be interesting to know what the rshares equal to these days in terms of hp. Could you or @mein-senf-dazu send me a dm on discord? No need to include mustard!
Vote selling should be quite banned, I know there's some projects that do this in a "hidden" way but definitely something I'd reward if more people bothered to look into who's doing it excessively. For instance sending them some hive-engine token (usually their own they've created) in exchange for a hive upvote or automatically voting up users just cause they delegate to them, etc. There's many projects out there in the gray-area and some profiting quite a lot from this activity at the cost of unfairness towards users not participating.
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