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RE: Want to Save Money? Just Quit Church! Really?
Good morning, Princess.
Sorry I'm only replying now, got too busy until I slept off. I appreciate your well explained points about tithes, I actually expected these points so yeah, you sure know verses to back up what you believe is right but let me come in from here.
You know that what we believe will work for us does work for us right? Because I hear people say they have been experiencing God's blessings because they pay their tithes. Does that mean others are not being blessed by God? Even idol worshippers are blessed if they know the importance of giving. But that's by the way.
Tithe is a commandment from God as stated in Leviticus 27:30-34 which you mentioned too, did you see who God commanded? The Israelites! Yes, we are descendants of Israelites but we are definitely not the Israelites but a royal priesthood 1 Peter 2:9 bought at a price (Christ's blood) 1 Peter 1:18-19. I'm sure you've read in all the verses it was mentioned that God said, "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to Him".
The Israelites were not Christians as they had to do sacrifices to cleanse them from their sins unlike us today who Christ have died for and we only need to go through Him to be forgiven (we are to be Christ-likes). If you want to pay tithes like the Israelites did according to God's commandment, why aren't you doing animal sacrifices and keeping sabbath days holy like they did too? Now, you'll say because Christ have taken those away. And you don't think Christ didn't take the law of tithing too? James 2:10 said you're guilty if you offend in one law and do others.
Why go the hard way when Christ have given us a better way? Did we ever see an example of Christ and his apostles paying tithes? No! Why? Jesus Christ is the High priest and we are His Priesthood. Heb 8:1-2, 6. Who did the Israelites pay tithes to? Priests and today, Christians are priests... Do you pay the tithes to yourself then? What did the Israelites pay as tithes? First fruits of land produce, even those who had only money had to change it to land produce before they gave it as tithes (are you doing same with your tithe payments?)
Yes, tithes were a command by God to the Israelites but that was before Christ came to fulfill the law and give us a better covenant that is accessible by every human and not just to the house of Israel like God did. Heb 8:6-7. Going back to actually do the laws before Christ instead of learning of how God dealt with people before, is simply implying that you don't think Christ's commandments are perfect.
Christ died for you, do what He commands and that way, you're obeying God. But if you follow the Israelites to pay tithe today, how is your righteousness superceding theirs? If you want to pay tithes, do it right and you'll see it's harder than just putting money in an envelope. But christ gave a better command on how to give - 1 Cor 16:1-2. That money gathered can be used to care for the church if we know how important it is to give. Giving generally calls for more blessings, it's not because you pay tithes that isn't even meant for you, Christian to pay.
Read the whole of Heb 8 for a better understanding of why the law has been fulfilled and you should focus on Christ's commandments as his follower.
Any question is welcomed! 🙂
Wow. I appreciate this, Merit. I also want to believe that we all know what the word of God says. One thing we should understand is that none of God's laws or words have been removed or added to them. We are still part of the lineage of the Israelites, and because Christ came to replace many things with His blood, it doesn't mean all laws were erased. Many things that happened cannot be recorded in the Bible, as there are other events that happened, and if it would be written, we wouldn't have enough book to contain everything. But how do we know if the disciples paid tithes or not? Meanwhile, those who were called to preach the gospels as part of their full-time ministry, including Apostle Peter and others, are part of those who we must reward for their works, too. Read Romans and you will understand that they weren't supposed to do any work but to be rewarded for preaching the gospel, which Peter confirmed, too.
But as you say, what we beleive in works for us, and you say even the idol worshippers are being blessed without paying tithes. I don't dispute that, but remember God didn't stop anyone from being blessed, but some blessings aren't from God, and the Bible says even these people, their wealth would be eaten by foreigners. So, I believe, everyone would do what they want to.
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