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I hope there are more sessions like this. CTP was great before jongol moved away from it. They were developing quite a bit, and I agree that second layer tokens/games are also important things to consider. I agree that Hive should be open minded...there are a lot of unwritten rules and its a tough hurdle for new users.
I liked the CTP dynamic at that time. It was motivating and people started to create a lot of projects. I think we need an open mind in order not to be boxed in a too narrow world...