Mastadon - Another Failed Social Network?
Since some of the censorship issues arose in Twitter and Reddit, there has been a leaning towards a more decentralised social network where people were planning to possibly go.
Previously I have looked at Nostr, which has been growing fast and occupied by mostly Bitcoiners at the moment. They have a similar userbase as Hive and also you can reward content creators with the lightning network.
Today, I take a look another network that has been hyped called Mastadon which is maybe a cross between Twitter and Reddit when looking at it and as I understand it, it is not truly decentralised like Hive or Nostr, but it does have a step in that direction.
Mastadon now has local servers and if you produce content not liked by the admins of those servers, you can be censored or blocked from the server. However, you then have the option to join other servers, so are not completely blocked from the network like twitter or reddit. This is how the theory so works.
Consdering spam and other malicious content creators do need to be blocked somehow, I think some sort of control over these malicious actors are needed. Is the Mastadon way a good way?
When searching for Bitcoin content, there isn't much to find on Mastadon. Pretty much no groups or users are here and actively using it. In fact, I struggled to find pretty much any active real users despite supposedly high numbers.
This is pretty much confirmed when you start looking for content via hashtags or users to follow.
What there is plenty to find on Mastadon is many mainstream media newsarticle links spamming feeds as being talked about or for people to read the news. Why you would want this on a social network I am not sure.
When looking for local posts, there was also pretty much nothing to see or read. Most of the content is also looking like spam and not feeling worthy of your attention.
The actual usage of the App is quite nice and simple though and runs smoothly enough. There just isn't any content or users there to want you to use it as far as I could find.
Alot of the content seems either spam or generic google search results pasted as content and there seems no reason to use or join. It seems communities and community related content are really missing that might connect people. But it also shows that creating a twitter like app is no good without users and communities who want to share content with each other.
Have you used Mastadon? What do you think about it?
Thanks for reading.
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Title image created by AI in DALL-E with mastodon, blue and m logo prompts.
Screenshots taken from my Mastadon account https://mastodon.social/
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I haven't used it yet, but I've heard of it, and it has a lot of visibility on X, more than Hive, although it's smaller, less decentralized, and less anonymous.
Various political activists, both left and right, promote it as the second Twitter, but from what you say, it's more low content and more spam, so I won't use it either.
Well, maybe we should get its users on Hive?
Yeah, I thought it would be more active as I saw it being promoted, but there doesnt seem to be anything there! Next I will look at Bluesky. I think until the token price rises, it will be hard to attract users to Hive.
Thanks for this! Hive keeps me busy enough that I never even look at other sites, so I appreciate that you keep me aware!
There is lots going on here that it would be hard to have time for another social media site.
Like Steemit 😂
Yeah, I was surprised that it is like an echo chamber. Literally no one has moved to Mastadon! I will check out Bluesky next.
Let me know if you need an invite code for Bluesky, Steve. Knowing you, you are already set for Bluesky though 😂
I dont have one, that would be great if you could send me one! 😀
Will do on Discord
Thanks!
I dont know much about it, its not fully decentralize but federated, the term kinda confusing although I saw an article it got some traction after Elon took over Twitter, well after all there were a lot of users that didnt like the changes at first but Mastodon is an oldy that IMO never got proper marketing, there are so many social networks out there that its a though market
Yeah, I think it didnt pick up any traction so is kinda dead. I guess people stayed on web2.
Well, I don't think that someone who is active on hive needs to use this. You did a good job to spread awareness.
Thanks, yeah there is nothing there to use.
Then I wont look at it, thanks for the heads up :)
Yeah, it is a waste of time as far as i can see!
Yea and dont have time for it anyway hehe
Yeah, Hive is plenty happening here!
Have you seen Koino's social I think @tobetada mentioned it don't know if it's out or if he tried it..
Yes, I've heard about their feeless chain and plans for social and the Dex is now live. However ,there is still nothing there and the social app is unusable in its current form. Which is ironic as they could just use one of the 21 open source ones funded already by OpenSats, they dont need to reinvent the wheel.
Haha lets reinvent the wheel. 😂
I need to see more before I invest. 💪
Thank you for sharing with us here
Hive is enough for me
I’m happy to be here
Yeah, I think I am feeling the same way!
It seems like it has passed beyond its hype cycle and there isn't much substance to keep users or make them stick around. I could recall when it was frequently talked about on social media as a 'good twitter alternative'.
Yeah, it seems that noone is really using it and stayed on Twitter.
Right, many of the 'Twitter killers' have become more or less irrelevant now.
Yes, only Nostr is interesting for Bitcoiners so far, the development there has been huge.
Ehrlich gesagt sehe ich kein USP seitens Mastodon. Nostr hingegen wird immer spannender find ich. Die iris Frontend die ich nutze hat sich in den letzten Monaten super verbessert. Zwar gibt's immer noch leichte Verzögerungen beim Laden, aber die Plattform ähnelt mehr und mehr Twitter / X mit dem grossen Vorteil der Dezentralisierung und BTC-Integration.
PS. Tippfehler im Header und teils im Text (Mastodon) - Klugscheißer halt 😉
Hehe ja war ein Typfehler lool. Du hast Recht, die Wachstum und viele Dapps und Co auf Nostr zeigt wo die Reise geht. Diese Woche habe ich Flare getestet und ist wirklich cool. Bist du in die Einandzwanzig Community?
Ist Flare der Nachfolger der Flote.app? Ich hatte Flote benutzt bevor es hopps ging. Ist die 21 Community dann auf Flare? Wie gesagt, ich nutze Flare (noch) nicht.
Ich bin mir nicht sicher. Ich kenne der Flote.app noch nicht. Flare kannst du hier finden: https://www.flare.pub/
Die 21 Community sind auf Nostr/Telegramm.. überall glaube ich.. https://einundzwanzig.space/
Super. Ich danke dir für den Tipp 👍❤️
nope never used this app. i think social media apps are quite tough; there are a lot of them. i reckon they failed cuz of the name :P like wut on earth is a mastadon sounds like a pokemon name no joke
Yeah, some thing didn't work with it!
it needed a better name. anyways my eyes are barely staying awake almost 5 am. i think i need to hit the sack and sleep. gotta get ready for another workin gd ay tmr
Have a good one bro! Keep on hustling!
Thank you. i am trying TT im looking at some alts to buy now
I really like Mastodon a lot. It feels a lot like the early Twitter, back at the beginning when it was more like a group SMS and was small enough that everyone knew everyone else (kind of like Hive now). I like it much more than Twitter/X. On there people are just fighting. Twitter mobs are still a thing, and everyone else is screaming about politics. I despise it. Mastodon is much more friendly. It's also much easier to mute keywords on there, which is nice.
But yeah, you do have to find the right server. I am on a Japan immigrants server and we all talk about mostly Japan stuff. It's fun. I think Neoxian runs a Mastodon server.
You are right about Twitter. It is too much extreme views about everything to click bait and get impressions. Many people are posting way to much to try and monetise. Worse are the many blue tick scams and fake airdrops all over the place. I think only Instagram is worse.
That is cool that you found a good Mastadon server, I can imagine if you have a good community around, then it can be pretty good and nice to use. The App itself is great I think.
Actually that's the cool part. There are so many different apps for Mastodon and they are all different. It's kind of a playground of ideas, similar to how apps on Twitter used to be way back before Twitter started to demand their apps standardize. I'd love to see if Hive did something similar, with many clients all doing different things. We kind of have that now, but the two big clients (ecency, peakd) are still pretty similar. I guess liketu is pretty different.
Anyway, it's a fun place as long as you aren't hoping for too much. I pop on to respond to some toots (what they call messages) and post one or two of my own for a few minutes every few days, so not much, but it's nice. If you want to experience the place more, here is my name: @dbooster@famichiki.jp
That sounds cool if you have your community setup, similar to Hive. Nice without all the Twitter type disturbances. I gave a you a follow and will see if I stick around there. 😀
I'm glad I never signed up on Mastodon...
Yeah, I think its very niche, I think Nostr and Hive are much better.
Great work done
Thanks 👍
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